One on top of two Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Aggy said: I am convinced an air gun can beat a .22 lr , shot to shot constantly is nigh on perfect. Haha easily but that’s another conversation I doubt will be welcome here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 Surly precision shooting is just that regardless of rifle choice ,no powder prejudice 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, Aggy said: Surly precision shooting is just that regardless of rifle choice ,no powder prejudice 🙂 I agree - Run a string from a modern regulated airgun through chronograph and anything outside single digit ES is poor - If only rimfire ammunition could do the same. You would think that with well over a hundred years of development, billions of rounds, hundreds of manufacturers each with R&D departments they would have nail it by now. Even paying for top grade premium ammunition the velocities are far from consistent and vary from lot to lot. I can't help thinking that if primed cases were readily available for home reloading the manufacturers would need to up their game. Maybe an accurately measured slug of solid propellent would give more consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamdavi3s Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Can’t wait to fill my two FAC air slots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 What are you going for ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamdavi3s Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Aggy said: What are you going for ? Probably a .25 Dreamtac, I’ve the .177 and .22 in non FAC so just working my way up 🤣 The Panthera is seriously tempting but having decided to keep the Vudoo I can’t justify it as well The .22 slot will probably be more of a cheap and cheerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Be careful with the Panthera it has to be filled up every mag at full power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 shots …ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 I went out yesterday with my CZ 457 MTR and shot at 200 yds in cold bright sunshine with a gentle L-R breeze. The two shoots were run as plotting training sessions, so after my initial shot, the trainee plotter made all the calls. First shoot was with RWS R100 ammunition and the second shoot was with SK Long Range Match. All shots fired were on the targets, so you can see how I started and moved in. The innermost yellow ring on the bull measures 4.5 inches. We plan to go back soon for more plotting practice on a windier day. The brighter yellow target (top) is the RWS R100. Regards JCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronWilson Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, jcampbellsmith said: I went out yesterday with my CZ 457 MTR and shot at 200 yds in cold bright sunshine with a gentle L-R breeze. The two shoots were run as plotting training sessions, so after my initial shot, the trainee plotter made all the calls. First shoot was with RWS R100 ammunition and the second shoot was with SK Long Range Match. All shots fired were on the targets, so you can see how I started and moved in. The innermost yellow ring on the bull measures 4.5 inches. We plan to go back soon for more plotting practice on a windier day. The brighter yellow target (top) is the RWS R100. Regards JCS Oooft! Good effort there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 It's a bit foggy today so it maybe the same tomorrow.. I did plan on trying out too 300yds if it's calm.. I think I've got enough elevation with the reticle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 hours ago, jcampbellsmith said: I went out yesterday with my CZ 457 MTR and shot at 200 yds in cold bright sunshine with a gentle L-R breeze. The two shoots were run as plotting training sessions, so after my initial shot, the trainee plotter made all the calls. First shoot was with RWS R100 ammunition and the second shoot was with SK Long Range Match. All shots fired were on the targets, so you can see how I started and moved in. The innermost yellow ring on the bull measures 4.5 inches. We plan to go back soon for more plotting practice on a windier day. The brighter yellow target (top) is the RWS R100. Regards JCS Nothing inbetween the ammo.. Have you tried tenex or match..?? I must try some of these targets.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, No i deer said: Nothing inbetween the ammo.. Have you tried tenex or match..?? I must try some of these targets.. I've not tried any other ammunition yet. Waiting to see when the new RWS and Lapua ammunition will hit the shelf. Thanks JCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 Thinking aloud - has anyone shooting 22 RF at ELR ranges (200 plus for example) found any benefit to having a faster twist barrel - the theory being a faster revolution at the muzzle would , over the time the bullet travelled have a higher maintained gyroscopic revolution at the target - maintaining greater stability than a traditional twist rate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Ronin said: Thinking aloud - has anyone shooting 22 RF at ELR ranges (200 plus for example) found any benefit to having a faster twist barrel - the theory being a faster revolution at the muzzle would , over the time the bullet travelled have a higher maintained gyroscopic revolution at the target - maintaining greater stability than a traditional twist rate ? No one in the UK that I’ve heard of. US folks are trying faster twists. There are some good videos on the Vudoo website specifically about their findings with twist rate and also coupled with barrel length - the old ‘you don’t need more than 16” on a 22rf’ goes out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 Cheers Tel ill have a look at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 I've only got 27 moa available and 10 on the reticle so 250yds is about my max range without a canted rail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 200yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 250yds... Had too get on the target.. Wasn't working out with the reticle. I will have 300yds on there using the whole reticle 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 First target.. I didn't see the shot in the orange even though I thought I heard it hit.. Saw the high hole the changed the elevation and and aimed with the same hash.. Didn't quite work out but the group was superb 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 100yds groups.. Not the best.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 100yds group average 1.031 inches. 200yds 2.700 inches 250yds 4 shot groups were 3.3 and 4.1 inches.. It's really hard too get good accuracy thats for sure. I can't see my CZ452 doing any better At 100yds I had 1 minute right wind on. 200yds 1 minute 3 minutes at 250yds. My eyes were straining. 250yds 4 shot groups in photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 2:13 PM, No i deer said: I've only got 27 moa available and 10 on the reticle so 250yds is about my max range without a canted rail Got that wrong there's 20 moa on the reticle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted January 29, 2023 Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 Today's effort.. 5 shot groups at 50yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtyvoats Posted January 29, 2023 Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 The smallest is 1/2 the size of the largest. Any idea why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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