JDT Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 So just when I was about to start target / long range shooting at a few clubs, the whole coronavirus thing kicked off (literally the week before I was meant to have my first weekend on the range). I’ve got plenty of shooting experience on vermin so had it in my head that once I was a member of the clubs I’d get a 6.5 Creedmoor on my ticket and go down the full custom route built on a Bighorn Origin. Obviously since then I’ve had more than enough time to mull this over and concluded that it’s probably not the best call and I should be spending any extra money on ammo and punching as much paper on the range (when we can all get back to it of course...) to just improve at target shooting in general. I realistically couldn’t afford a full custom rifle and have enough money left over to get optics anywhere near good enough to do it justice. So with that in mind I started googling best production / ‘out-of-the-box’ long range / tactical precision rifles for 600 - 1000 yards. Just wondering what people’s opinions on this are? I like the Bergara Premier LRP but don’t think it comes in lefty. Also the Bad Rock South Fork (which I believe is a production rifle made by Defiance) which does comes in lefty but not sure I could get one over here: https://badrockrifles.com/ Or...am I just better off getting a semi-custom trued-up donor Remy 700 with a Sassen barrel and Mcmillian stock and tuned trigger from a reputable gunsmith? Or would that also be significantly more expensive than a production rifle? All thoughts very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topscots1 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Bergarra HMR, I have mine bedded I a PSE stock. Incredible rifle for the money, thinking about a carbon fibre barrel. If I do total all in cost will have been around 3 K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, topscots1 said: Bergarra HMR, I have mine bedded I a PSE stock. Incredible rifle for the money, thinking about a carbon fibre barrel. If I do total all in cost will have been around 3 K It shoots ok then 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, JDT said: So just when I was about to start target / long range shooting at a few clubs, the whole coronavirus thing kicked off (literally the week before I was meant to have my first weekend on the range). I’ve got plenty of shooting experience on vermin so had it in my head that once I was a member of the clubs I’d get a 6.5 Creedmoor on my ticket and go down the full custom route built on a Bighorn Origin. Obviously since then I’ve had more than enough time to mull this over and concluded that it’s probably not the best call and I should be spending any extra money on ammo and punching as much paper on the range (when we can all get back to it of course...) to just improve at target shooting in general. I realistically couldn’t afford a full custom rifle and have enough money left over to get optics anywhere near good enough to do it justice. So with that in mind I started googling best production / ‘out-of-the-box’ long range / tactical precision rifles for 600 - 1000 yards. Just wondering what people’s opinions on this are? I like the Bergara Premier LRP but don’t think it comes in lefty. Also the Bad Rock South Fork (which I believe is a production rifle made by Defiance) which does comes in lefty but not sure I could get one over here: https://badrockrifles.com/ Or...am I just better off getting a semi-custom trued-up donor Remy 700 with a Sassen barrel and Mcmillian stock and tuned trigger from a reputable gunsmith? Or would that also be significantly more expensive than a production rifle? All thoughts very much appreciated. You haven't mentioned budget for the rifle and for the scope + mounts etc. Custom rifles can loose a shed load of value as they are, well, custom - meaning specific to your needs and that might not be someone else's 'must have'. Tikka Tac is very popular for good reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Best production rifle. Well it’s got to be an Accuracy International AT. same action as the AX308 and shoots just as well. But cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDT Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, topscots1 said: Bergarra HMR, I have mine bedded I a PSE stock. Incredible rifle for the money, thinking about a carbon fibre barrel. If I do total all in cost will have been around 3 K I was thinking a Bergara HMR as well and as it happens they’ve started doing them in leftie, will definitely consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDT Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: You haven't mentioned budget for the rifle and for the scope + mounts etc. Custom rifles can loose a shed load of value as they are, well, custom - meaning specific to your needs and that might not be someone else's 'must have'. Tikka Tac is very popular for good reasons. Budget is approximately £2k for rifle and £1.5k for optics is what I had in mind. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDT Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Scotch_egg said: Best production rifle. Well it’s got to be an Accuracy International AT. same action as the AX308 and shoots just as well. But cheaper. Cheers mate, what price do they tend to come in at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furrybean Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Customs do loose a crazy amount of value but once they’ve dropped they also retain more value than a factory rifle. Get a custom this has been put together by a good smith, with the action you want, correct stock and a calibre you can live with. Price in a new barrel and any barrel life you have left in that barrel is a bonus. Use it to get used to the setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Best production - Accuracy International- choose your flavour to suit your wallet. Best value for money - Tikka Tac Best ( for me ) Gucci - Kelbly NYX Hint - I have an Accuracy International AW and AXMC. If I was buying new now I would buy a Kelbly NYX in 6.5 creed or 6.5x47. link added: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 >>Best ( for me ) Gucci - Kelbly NYX Never heard of it till 5 mins aago, now after a quick google, I want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Buy a 2nd hand custom or AI. Plenty of them kicking around on the Sale section of the forum. If you choose wisely, you can get a gun for several £k cheaper than new, well within your budget. and most seem to only have around 400-600 rounds down the tube. You will be good for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, martin_b said: >>Best ( for me ) Gucci - Kelbly NYX Never heard of it till 5 mins aago, now after a quick google, I want one. Personally, better actions out there for the money. Doesn’t have an integral picatinny rail nor recoil lug. Both are pinned. Actions that have these elements machined as part of the action costs more (more complex machining) but makes the action both stronger/more rigid and won’t budge or come apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDT Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, martin_b said: >>Best ( for me ) Gucci - Kelbly NYX Never heard of it till 5 mins aago, now after a quick google, I want one. Same, but we’ll outside my budget haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDT Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Thanks for the replies everyone, will take a look at the Accuracy International AT’s and some second hand’s. Although I am one of these weird people who likes to be the custodian of something from brand new so it irks me haha. I can’t help it, it’s just part of me 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Be exclusive get a McMillan T2k absolutely the best Precision Production Rifle out there (but they don't make them anymore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSG Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Well just my opinion slightly influenced by home delivery beer! AI and Tikka tac are both pretty good, but our doctrine where I work ‘prone is dead’ as far as rifle shooting is concerned and improvised shooting positions being the next new thing. Based upon this I use aTRG in 260 rem and a Tikka CTR in the same calibre for target shooting, but I am starting to think that you could do just as well with a heavy barrel Blaser apart from the magazine capacity. Perhaps part of it is the kit, I collect watches and as my wife point out they all tell the bloody time why do you actually need one that costs £6000. Have a great evening,🦌💀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, TSG said: Well just my opinion slightly influenced by home delivery beer! AI and Tikka tac are both pretty good, but our doctrine where I work ‘prone is dead’ as far as rifle shooting is concerned and improvised shooting positions being the next new thing. Based upon this I use aTRG in 260 rem and a Tikka CTR in the same calibre for target shooting, but I am starting to think that you could do just as well with a heavy barrel Blaser apart from the magazine capacity. >>>>>>>Perhaps part of it is the kit, I collect watches and as my wife point out they all tell the bloody time why do you actually need one that costs £6000. Have a great evening,🦌💀 Is it to late to send her back for a refund? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Another option would be to buy a tikka t3 doner action and have it rebarreled to whatever spec you wanted and stick it in a krg bravo chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topscots1 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Ronin said: It shoots ok then 👍🏻 It hasn’t done much since I got it back from you. A range trip where it shot sub moa after a few rounds to bed in. And then taken a few roe. I love the stock. Looking at having one retrofitted to my RPA woodland stalker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I know of a very low use customised left hand Tikka T3 in Chassis for sale - it’s in 6.5/47 and immaculate and would easily rechamber to creedmoor if absolutely necessary I built it and it shoots impeccably from customer feedback on the sole visit it had at Bisley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvet Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Ronin said: it’s in 6.5/47 and immaculate and would easily rechamber to creedmoor if absolutely necessary OMG who would want to do such a terrible thing!! 😲 pure sacrilege!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Factory guns / The Tikka tac every time, unless you can go that bit more for the AI AT, which is a better rifle. I wouldn't give a Bergara house room. I saw one the other day with a completely knackered barrel, that had never shot right. I borescope it for the chap, and told him his barrel was worn out, and I thought it had fired over 2500 rounds. It had fired a documented 350. The firing pin hole was 10 thou larger than a remmy, and he's never been able to fire full power loads in it, for primer cratering/piercing. And folk say they are an improvement over a remmy....Nah they aint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 For a factory gun, in addition to the Tikka’s, I’d also consider looking at the Sabatti STR. Several club members I’ve shot with have them and I’ve always been amazed at the accuracy and consistency. Supposedly after a short break in (100 rounds or so) the bolt really smooths out and the trigger is good. Takes AICS Mags too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 ive a accuracy international at and i think its a great rifle ive a tikka tac as well again great rifle . if 3.5 k is your budget buy the likes of the tikka and spend the rest on the glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.