Brexit? A quick poll

[The_Dogge]

What's gone?

I made a response to les' post of 27 June 2016 - 05:30 PM, about lunchtime yesterday, which is not showing. I didn't think there was anything rude or objectionable about it.

[brown dog]

I made a response to les' post of 27 June 2016 - 05:30 PM, about lunchtime yesterday, which is not showing. I didn't think there was anything rude or objectionable about it.

 

Don't think anything's been clipped.

[Grum87]

I'm starting to think we would be better off without them, it would increase the English/Welsh majority , then we could all gloat when the EU they've just joined collapses , they'd soon be back cap in hand

 

 

I have to agree with one of the above responses, that is a pathetic opinion.

 

Equal in stupidity to the SNP farce that we are enduring......

[brown dog]

A friend observed this today:

 

 

I hope it has.

[Grum87]

Pleased to see Spain saying they will Veto Wee Burny's attempts to join the EU.

 

There is an element of irony that the bag that suggested she could(but cant) veto the vote to leave the EU, has been played at her own pathetic game.

 

Might have a holiday in spain next year.....

[That bald headed Geordie]

 

Bugger .... I left mine (blue paint and pipes, no kilt though, Scotland's chilly enough wearing strides) in Perthshire when I moved south. Would you like me to get a set and serenade you at Diggle Les?

Please don't as I feel a little bilious, but thankyou for the offer Laurie.

[1066]

Better news on the economy. BBC website:

 

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The FTSE 100 has surged through the level it closed at last Thursday, recovering all of the ground it had lost in the wake of the Brexit vote.

The FTSE 100 share index closed up 3.6% at 6,360.1 after a flurry of last-minute trading.

At the close of trade on Thursday last week, before the referendum vote, the FTSE 100 ended the day at 6,338.10.

The pound also strengthened against the dollar and euro.

Analysts said the sharp recovery in the FTSE 100 was unexpected.

[brown dog]

[brown dog]

 

(Bit of context for anyone who doesn't 'get':

 

Right. F,uck this. We're ALL up sh1t creek and we need a paddle. Now, not in three months.

 

Fellow Remain voters: Enough already. Yes, we're all pissed off but navel gazing ain't gonna help. Not all 17 million Leave voters can possibly be racist northern pensioners without an O level to their name. Maybe they have a point about this quitting the EU thing? Maybe not. Whatever, we are where we are and no amount a whinging is gonna change that. Allegedly we're the intelligent ones, so get your thinking caps on.

 

Leave voters. Well done. Good game. We hear you. Now you need to get stuck in to the aftermath and not just piss off back to Wetherspoons. (Just banter, twats!). And the first person to say they "want their country back" gets deported to phukkin Gibraltar. OK?

 

Politicians.

 

David. F.uck off. Shut the door behind you. Now.

 

George. You may be a tw.at but you're our tw.at. Plus you know the passwords for our Junior Savers account. Get your calculator. Drop the face-like-a-slapped-ass routine. You're on.

 

Boris. Sorry mate. That photo of you abseiling by your scrotum over the London Olympics while waving a Union Jack can't ever be un-taken. Plus, you'll never be able to appear on Question Time again without some sturdy Glaswegian nurse asking where the phuck her 350 million quid is. Not only will she have a very good point, she'll be wearing a T shirt that shows you gurning in front of that bus! No captains hat for you I'm afraid.

 

Theresa. You're in charge love. Get the biggest shoulder pads you've got. We need Ming The Merciless in drag and you'll scare the sh1t out of 'em.

 

Nicola. Yep. Fair cop. You probably could get us on a technicality, as could London. But we phukkin love shortbread. And oil. And to be honest you're probably the best politician we've got, so we need you on side. Sort your lot out and we promise never to mention that Jimmy Krankie thing again (although it is pretty uncanny) and we'll make you a Dame once we're sorted. Bring Ruth Davidson. She kicks ass.

 

Opposition party. We'll need one. Someone take Jeremy and John back to the British Legion Club where you found them. Take Nigel as well. Give back their sandals, buy them a pint, then go to Heathrow and collect David Milliband. phuck it. Lets gets Ed Balls as well. He keeps George on his toes. I think he works on the lottery kiosk at Morrisons now?

 

Oh. And Mark Carney. Give him a knighthood and tell him to keep that that which sh1t coming. We definitely need more of that good sh1t!

 

Everyone set? Right. Hold the Easyjet. We're going to Brussels and this ain't no hen party. )

[Shuggy]

Well, I have to say that I have been avoiding this thread for the last few weeks, but BD that last post has made my day. I am chuckling away with my daughter and she is threatening to post it on Facebook. Perhaps you should do it first!

[banus02]

good evening,love Gibraltar can I have two tickets this time as the wife wants to come too,dont like to leave a sinking ship but needs must

[Chanonry]

That Scottish MEP was a national disgrace and it shows that our MEPs have no backbone, those Europeans are laughing at us scots.

Many scots want independence from England but want to be part of a federal Europe- seems like a total contradiction to me.

 

Personally I voted out, one of my main reasons was all the people who died during 2 world wars fighting the Germans. My grandfather once said to me that Germany was seeking to take over Europe without firing a bullet and everything I have heard recently has verified his theory.

even if I struggle to pay the bills and my pension takes a dive over the next few years I don't care, rather that than these European idiots ruling over our country from their Brussels bubble.

 

If Scotland does go independent you will see mass immigration from Scotland into England it will be like that controversial poster that UKIP were using during the Brexit campaign with all the refugees marching. But I hope it does not come to that and Scotland grows up, leaves the past where it belongs and we stay part of the UK

 

 

Is this still going ?

 

Wee Nippy was just trying to get up the PM's nose in advance so that if she decided IndyRef2 was a go then FuturePM would think twice about telling her to sod off. You know, like Leave said £350m went to Europe every day and they would spend it on the NHS but changed their mind by teatime on Friday. She is assuming the FuturePM is as dumb as the Leave voters that put them in place.

 

Think IndyRef2 is unlikely at the moment as it probably means the Euro which will lose the vote so WN is more likely to roll with it use Brexit as the lever to moan and groan and go at a time of her choosing, if that ever arrives.

 

Big shift in sentiment up here. Previously staunch 'No's' realised on Friday morning that their British identity does not actually exist coupled with revulsion of the Anti-European Little England/Farage mentality, leading to strong swing to Independence. Uniting around a (positive) view of a future as part of Europe when a previous call to arms under the 'Scottish' identity was not enough. So IndyRef1 may well have been about "Little Jocks" and a resentment of England with a twisted view of history but it is now very much about the future and it is no longer possible for the majority to envisage that as part of the UK long term.

 

English politics has totally collapsed, the Leave promises did not even survive 24 hours and no matter how bad anyone is up here, the English political establishment is openly fraudulent and totally incompetent. Why would anyone chose to be led by them??

 

It is now the 'No's' that are the minority intransigents feeling threatened. Big change in sentiment in a very short period of time. They are going to have to decide either to suck it up or sod off to Brexitland at some point.

 

In the event of an EU Scotland - the parallel in immigration is more likely to be India/Pakistan. Swap of metropolitan ABC1's from Brexit England (London mainly) into Edinburgh largely with our largely rural 'Little Englander' mentality heading South. Previously it would have been Tories/Affluent moving south.

 

No one up here really gives a sh*t about what anyone else thinks about Independence as the total clusterf*ck that is the Brexit politics has totally destroyed any pretence of competence and no-one wants to leave anything important in your control.

[Chanonry]

Oh and Wee Nippy is coming with us as are the Jocks in Parliament.

 

You know the ones that are not he bearded useless blancmange or the posh boy with the knives in his back but can actually have a policy that survives longer than a week.

 

You can keep that tw*t Galloway though, leaving present !!

 

 

 

edited: put the swear words back in

[Grum87]

Chanonry mate, you're reading too much of the SNP propaganda if you think the last week has seen a huge swing of 'Naw' voters gunning for independence.......

 

 

But if we do get independence, I'll be heading south and wishing you luck with finding the circa 11bn(or is it more?) to get our finances in order to get into the EU.

 

Good joke but....

[brown dog]

Well, I have to say that I have been avoiding this thread for the last few weeks, but BD that last post has made my day. I am chuckling away with my daughter and she is threatening to post it on Facebook. Perhaps you should do it first!

 

Ha! Can't claim it, I'm afraid - it's a chap in Bath. All over facebook already

[Grum87]

(but I agree on the Galloway comment - concrete wellies in the North Sea for him)

[MrCetrizine]

[ds1]

"ever closer union" innocent little phrase to mean Eu army, Eu centralised criminal law, Eu control of all borders and immigration, centralised Eu banking.

 

I wondered what would happen with the extra star on the Eu flag.....welcome Turkey..soon.

 

Be happy the UK does not need to part of it.

 

Parody?

 

[Re-Pete]

In an Australian referendum, there has to be a majority in each of four out of the six states, as well as an overall majority.

It would be interesting to apply this rule to our recent fiasco, and see how it would have panned out................

 

H/man

[VarmLR]

No amount of backward navel gazing changes the result. A majority of the UK population who voted, voted to leave. Democracy has spoken. I fear that May, if elected, will look for any way possible to delay invoking Article 50 in order to look for a way to renage on Britain leaving. The game has only just started with the European Parliament. If May does stab UK voters in the back, that spells the end of democracy in this country.

[gazzarM1]

I am far from certain she is the right person for the job . I also believe that it would be political suicide to ignore the result of the referendum no matter how inconvenient it is for the establishment.

It seems somewhat ironic that these discussions revolve around the 100th anniversary of a struggle and sacrifice by so many to help us keep our freedom, yet so many seem to think that freedom and democracy are ours to give away.

The reality is that we are the custodians of freedom and as such we need to guard it for future generations.

[Re-Pete]

For a better understanding of what the last two wars were actually about, I suggest reading Niall Fergusons' book:

 

"The War of the World" ISBN 978-1-59420-100-4

 

H/man

[VarmLR]

For a better understanding of what the last two wars were actually about, I suggest reading Niall Fergusons' book:

 

"The War of the World" ISBN 978-1-59420-100-4

 

H/man

 

I'm guessing that many of us know pretty well what the last two wars were about already since we're of "an age" and have had opportunity to read a lot of history on the subject, not to mention living relatives within our lifetimes who fought in the last war ;-)

 

Interestingly, Ferguson, as well as taking a globalised view of conflicts and their causes, did label socialist and fascist states under the common rubric of Totalitarianism, pointing to states of being and occupation which historically have never worked long term or have not been in the best interests of the people that they affect...or more commonly, both. I see some parallels between this sort of totalitarianism and an EU super state.

[Re-Pete]

I almost had first hand experience.........as a two year old, I was living about 1/4 mile away from one of the first V 2 hits on London, and 200yds from a furniture company that had switched to Mosquito airframes...........

 

H/man

[Wapinschaw]

I almost had first hand experience.........as a two year old, I was living about 1/4 mile away from one of the first V 2 hits on London, and 200yds from a furniture company that had switched to Mosquito airframes...........

 

H/man

 

Close call! Is that why your screen name is a German military rank?