Brexit? A quick poll

[JBirchall]

Two Brexits in one week. We're on fire!

[rover]

Two Brexits in one week. We're on fire!

And the right answer to them both out out

[parkyboy]

Im going to start a petition to play the game again....lol....Hugh

[bradders]

Two Brexits in one week. We're on fire!

 

Wales are still in it!

[brown dog]

The deciding 750,000 votes were clearly from disillusioned voters in 'the labour heartland'-such as Hartlepool-and that will tear Labour apart,perhaps for another decade.Likewise Boris and Gove have no clesr plan as yet.Increased racial crime will hopefully be minimal.

 

Hartlepool? So you watched the Ch4 news? Disgraceful reporting, thoughts from erudite 'remainers' and now over to one of the 17 million no-o-levels racist Northern pensioners. And it just went on and on..now some racist football supporters - well, they didn't exist before Brexit!.. particular marked by the rudeness of the remainers on the panel discussion. Rudeness that didn't have a neat label, such as 'racist', but just flat-out 'you must be thick to hold a view that I don't share' venom.

People really need to move on. It's 'Us' now.,

Increased racial crime? - utterly despicable. I do sense it's being a smidge over-reported though(?) Country of >65million and I believe it's gone from c50 to c85? -utterly condemn every instance, but it suits the bitter media.

[gbal]

Matt,The University of Loughborough's media research team showed a consistent slight media euroscepticism -for the last 15 years-it's always been an easy throw away reason for anything not liked-sometimes with some validity.

Specific reporting on the referendum has been pretty fair,though less so in the populist press,they found.

OK,that's all over and done,if not fully dusted. We'll see how the new cake is shared.

 

Hearts of oak have spoke,and the hed shed need to reorient and do their (expert) bit,as they usually do.

g

[bowji john]

You can't blame the England team

 

How can a fella concentrate on kicking a ball around when one has to keep an eye on one's investment portfolio and one's stock broker is pulling his hair out

[gbal]

You can't blame the England team

 

How can a fella concentrate on kicking a ball around when one has to keep an eye on one's investment portfolio and one's stock broker is pulling his hair out

Bowi,nice one!! :-)

 

The best english sense of decent humour will serve us all better here than any alternative.

 

Com'ere old kitbag,got some more stuff for you.

 

gb

[VarmLR]

 

Hartlepool? So you watched the Ch4 news? Disgraceful reporting, thoughts from erudite 'remainers' and now over to one of the 17 million no-o-levels racist Northern pensioners. And it just went on and on..now some racist football supporters - well, they didn't exist before Brexit!.. particular marked by the rudeness of the remainers on the panel discussion. Rudeness that didn't have a neat label, such as 'racist', but just flat-out 'you must be thick to hold a view that I don't share' venom.

People really need to move on. It's 'Us' now.,

Increased racial crime? - utterly despicable. I do sense it's being a smidge over-reported though(?) Country of >65million and I believe it's gone from c50 to c85? -utterly condemn every instance, but it suits the bitter media.

 

+1

 

The bias in news reporting has and will remain in favour of "Remain" until such time as the UK rallies and starts standing on its own two feet, when the battle cry will change to "we always knew that we could do it!". News reporting is sensationalist and biased and has been for years. Even the BBC have morphed into some sort of ultra left wing secular organisation with no interest in the truth, just interest in their own warped agendas, and we fund that!

 

News reporting has been so skewed as to be fictional and this despicable divisive reporting that a majority voting "out" are demographically less intelligent, plus some even saying that those with a lower IQ or above 50 years old shouldn't be allowed to vote!

 

Everyone has that right, young or old, thick or erudite, fat or thin, employed or unemployed. It's called "democracy", or are we now just saying that democracy is for the elite classes only? That's pure fascism and is worryingly analogous to some of the more unwelcome social engineering goals of the EU as it currently stands. Don't some people get the fact that part of the protest vote was against this very sort of elitism? If the ruling classes had fought a battle with integrity, part of that surely should have been to present the facts so that those not in the know didn't have to grasp at straws? The Remainers have no-one to blame but themselves. The arrogance is astounding. Had a factual and non-personal battle been fought, I suspect the vote would have swung the other way, but it didn't because of the derision that the left and liberal wings have for anyone over 50 and on the centre-right in politicals.

 

I repeat, that the decision has been made democratically, the country has spoken. The bad feeling only remains because the vote was narrow and the losing side won't accept it. The name calling and mud slinging will not stop until "Remain" accept that the democratic process has been served and learn to live in peace and unity with their neighbours, young or old, left or right wing, and we look to a brighter future. It wont be cheaper, and there will be pain, but the gains will be an extraction from the control and social engineering of the great socialist Utopian dictatorship currently interfering in far too many areas of our lives. The Germans and French are the ones wanting for the experiment to continue as they have most to lose now we've voted out. The Italians are also losers in all this as their economy is failing yet their contribution is about the same as ours. They cannot afford to remain.

 

It's less than a week since Brexit so perhaps we should give it a few months before coming to any ill conceived conclusions about our futures just yet. The markets will recover, they always do. The biggest risk to the UK is in losing its financial passport meaning that we will need significant industrial growth just to survive. If we keep that passport, we'll do just fine.

[maximus otter]

 

...the vote was narrow and the losing side won't accept it.

 

To quote the Biased BBC blog:

 

"This was a vote far more democratic than the last general election. The referendum had a 75% turnout with over 50% of the voters in favour of Brexit whereas the government is in power on the basis of 36.9% of the vote on a turnout of 66.1% And yet we are told Brexit is undemocratic."

 

The vote showed an almost 8 per cent lead for Brexit (48.1 against 51.9). I don't call 8% "narrow".

 

maximus otter

[VarmLR]

 

To quote the Biased BBC blog:

 

"This was a vote far more democratic than the last general election. The referendum had a 75% turnout with over 50% of the voters in favour of Brexit whereas the government is in power on the basis of 36.9% of the vote on a turnout of 66.1% And yet we are told Brexit is undemocratic."

 

The vote showed an almost 8 per cent lead for Brexit (48.1 against 51.9). I don't call 8% "narrow".

 

maximus otter

 

It's easy I know to find examples for some unbiased reporting, but on the whole, myself, my family and a good number of my friends all commented on how biased the BBC seemed to be in favour of Remain. Indeed, they were even pulled up for it early in the campaign!

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/653836/BBC-biased-Brexit-EU-referendum-Newsnight-Question-Time

 

http://bbccomplaints.com/

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12175189/EU-referendum-BBC-is-already-failing-its-impartiality-test-claims-Tory-MP-Andrew-Bridgen.html

[Cumbrian 1]

Whinging now won't help we need to show that we are willing to play a hard game, Cameron has let the country down at least Farage has had the balls to have a go:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36650014

[bowji john]

It seems the people have more backbone that any politician

 

The clock is ticking whilst these professional layabouts in parliament play 'game of thrones'.

[Tenex]

I have just worked out that the Scottish vote to remain was just about 5% of the total votes cast..........

 

So naturally they must be able to call the tune and demand that the other 95% do as they say....or else..

 

 

 

Jeeze.

 

G

[Viajero]

I have just worked out that the Scottish vote to remain was just about 5% of the total votes cast..........

 

So naturally they must be able to call the tune and damand that the other 95% do as they say....or else..

 

 

 

Jeeze.

 

G

I'm starting to think we would be better off without them, it would increase the English/Welsh majority , then we could all gloat when the EU they've just joined collapses , they'd soon be back cap in hand

[nearly there]

So it's Scottish Vs English with your attitude,grow up.

The snp are bumping there gums but there is nothing new in that.not all us Scots voted to remain.I for one will not accept another independence vote to then suck up to the eu as that is not independence in my book.that Scottish mep on the news begging for the eu to let us down was disgusting and embarrassing

[longbow3]

That Scottish MEP was a national disgrace and it shows that our MEPs have no backbone, those Europeans are laughing at us scots.

Many scots want independence from England but want to be part of a federal Europe- seems like a total contradiction to me.

 

Personally I voted out, one of my main reasons was all the people who died during 2 world wars fighting the Germans. My grandfather once said to me that Germany was seeking to take over Europe without firing a bullet and everything I have heard recently has verified his theory.

even if I struggle to pay the bills and my pension takes a dive over the next few years I don't care, rather that than these European idiots ruling over our country from their Brussels bubble.

 

If Scotland does go independent you will see mass immigration from Scotland into England it will be like that controversial poster that UKIP were using during the Brexit campaign with all the refugees marching. But I hope it does not come to that and Scotland grows up, leaves the past where it belongs and we stay part of the UK

[tackb]

That Scottish MEP was a national disgrace and it shows that our MEPs have no backbone, those Europeans are laughing at us scots.

Many scots want independence from England but want to be part of a federal Europe- seems like a total contradiction to me.

 

Personally I voted out, one of my main reasons was all the people who died during 2 world wars fighting the Germans. My grandfather once said to me that Germany was seeking to take over Europe without firing a bullet and everything I have heard recently has verified his theory.

even if I struggle to pay the bills and my pension takes a dive over the next few years I don't care, rather that than these European idiots ruling over our country from their Brussels bubble.

 

If Scotland does go independent you will see mass immigration from Scotland into England it will be like that controversial poster that UKIP were using during the Brexit campaign with all the refugees marching. But I hope it does not come to that and Scotland grows up, leaves the past where it belongs and we stay part of the UK

 

a sensible opinion and view , I wish there were more like it !

[That bald headed Geordie]

That Scottish MEP was a national disgrace and it shows that our MEPs have no backbone, those Europeans are laughing at us scots.

Many scots want independence from England but want to be part of a federal Europe- seems like a total contradiction to me.

 

Personally I voted out, one of my main reasons was all the people who died during 2 world wars fighting the Germans. My grandfather once said to me that Germany was seeking to take over Europe without firing a bullet and everything I have heard recently has verified his theory.

even if I struggle to pay the bills and my pension takes a dive over the next few years I don't care, rather that than these European idiots ruling over our country from their Brussels bubble.

 

If Scotland does go independent you will see mass immigration from Scotland into England it will be like that controversial poster that UKIP were using during the Brexit campaign with all the refugees marching. But I hope it does not come to that and Scotland grows up, leaves the past where it belongs and we stay part of the UK

Yes it was rather cringe making and the same level of 'cringeness' that Tony Bliar did when he said emotionally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction ready to be fired at the UK within 15 minutes or so. Anyway any Scot is welcome into England and bring your bagpipes, kilt and blue paint if you wish matey.

[Laurie]

Yes it was rather cringe making and the same level of 'cringeness' that Tony Bliar did when he said emotionally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction ready to be fired at the UK within 15 minutes or so. Anyway any Scot is welcome into England and bring your bagpipes, kilt and blue paint if you wish matey.

 

Bugger .... I left mine (blue paint and pipes, no kilt though, Scotland's chilly enough wearing strides) in Perthshire when I moved south. Would you like me to get a set and serenade you at Diggle Les?

[maximus otter]

 

maximus otter

[les]

That'll help to restore our fishing quotas.

[The_Dogge]

I see this thread is being moderated to remove dissenting opinions now, so no point in further discussion....

[brown dog]

I see this thread is being moderated to remove dissenting opinions now, so no point in further discussion....

What's gone?

[Grum87]

That Scottish MEP was a national disgrace and it shows that our MEPs have no backbone, those Europeans are laughing at us scots.

Many scots want independence from England but want to be part of a federal Europe- seems like a total contradiction to me.

 

Personally I voted out, one of my main reasons was all the people who died during 2 world wars fighting the Germans. My grandfather once said to me that Germany was seeking to take over Europe without firing a bullet and everything I have heard recently has verified his theory.

even if I struggle to pay the bills and my pension takes a dive over the next few years I don't care, rather that than these European idiots ruling over our country from their Brussels bubble.

 

If Scotland does go independent you will see mass immigration from Scotland into England it will be like that controversial poster that UKIP were using during the Brexit campaign with all the refugees marching. But I hope it does not come to that and Scotland grows up, leaves the past where it belongs and we stay part of the UK

good to see a fellow Perthshire dweller thats not a sodding SNP supporter. Thought for a second I was alone....