lee w 118 Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 If say i have a 22-250 on my ticket , and i want to try 22-250 Ackley will i need a new 1 for1 on ackley or is 22 -250 classed the same on ticket, cheers Lee. All it is i want to have a ackley in the calibre i have already got on my ticket 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, lee w 118 said: If say i have a 22-250 on my ticket , and i want to try 22-250 Ackley will i need a new 1 for1 on ackley or is 22 -250 classed the same on ticket, cheers Lee. All it is i want to have a ackley in the calibre i have already got on my ticket 👍 I believe you will be ok. I'd be gobsmacked if your FEO knew the difference ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meles meles Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 The law requires the calibre to be stated, not the chamber dimensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 To have your chamber Ackley improved does not require notification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee w 118 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Thank you Gents😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 A slightly different scenario to you. And It probably doesn’t make a difference (don’t know for sure as I didn’t quiz my FEO specifically) but when I drew up my latest US export license I made sure to state very clearly the number of .223AI barrels I was exporting. I also made sure my FAC also clearly stated .223AI to ensure both clarity and consistency. Border control I’m sure would have a field day if the designations don’t match up. I preferred to err on the side of caution. Good luck with yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 hours ago, lee w 118 said: If say i have a 22-250 on my ticket , and i want to try 22-250 Ackley will i need a new 1 for1 on ackley or is 22 -250 classed the same on ticket, cheers Lee. All it is i want to have a ackley in the calibre i have already got on my ticket 👍 If I was you mate I'd call your firearms department to clarify, I bet some departments will want it stated Ackley on your licence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorlander Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Every firearms dept will have different a view , ask yours then youve no worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 8 hours ago, lee w 118 said: If say i have a 22-250 on my ticket , and i want to try 22-250 Ackley will i need a new 1 for1 on ackley or is 22 -250 classed the same on ticket, cheers Lee. All it is i want to have a ackley in the calibre i have already got on my ticket 👍 Does your ticket say .22-250 Remington at present? Regards JCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meles meles Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 'Tis the law that prevails, not the whim of Mr Plod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 I have a . 243 that I had Ackley improved Back in 1999 no variation needed . Another mate at the time had his done ( also a member on here ) he’s in a different county, also no variation needed. just ask the gunsmith that’s doing it . come to think of it I know about half a dozen at least and still no variation needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 If you have 22-250 AI on your ticket for rifle and ammo how are you going to be able to fireform your first lot of brass. Holding plain 22-250 would surely be illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Baldie will no doubt be able to clear this up . the only requirement is for your gunsmith to have the rifle re-proofed thats It mucker . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 I can't see an issue here. It sounds a bit like making a rod for your own back. I'll defer to Baldie, he must have come across this or similar numerous times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Rebarreling it should have 22-250 Ackley imp stamped on the barrell ,which I would have thought should be the same printed on your licence, but no dought different departments will probably have a different veiw on it😯. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Yes bob I have a border on mine with .243 win AI but on tick as .243 win as it always was 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 I don't believe I have ever seen Ackley Improved written on a ticket. I always sign them onto the ticket as such, but the variation is usually for the parent case. you wouldn't be able to buy ammunition otherwise. The law requests bore size, not cartridge. Either new barrel of re chambered, it must be proofed, and will say ackley improved non standard on it. There is no CIP spec for any of the ackleys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 👍 Ta for clearing that up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, baldie said: The law requests bore size, not cartridge. But surely we can't just apply for a "6.5 cal" and decide which one to get when the ticket arrives? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, Re-Pete said: But surely we can't just apply for a "6.5 cal" and decide which one to get when the ticket arrives? Pete I asked for ".17 centerfire" variation as hadn't made mind up as to a rebarrell in rem or fireball and was told no it had to be stated which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 Your sort of missing the point. My ackley is still a .243 win. I still have to put standard ,243 win rounds through it. And the result is a 40deg shoulder. But I’m not putting a different cal in it. When I buy factory ammo I still have to buy .243 win and that’s what goes down on the ticket. im failing to see what’s so difficult here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bob57 said: I asked for ".17 centerfire" variation as hadn't made mind up as to a rebarrell in rem or fireball and was told no it had to be stated which one. That’s understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob57 Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, One on top of two said: Your sort of missing the point. My ackley is still a .243 win. I still have to put standard ,243 win rounds through it. And the result is a 40deg shoulder. But I’m not putting a different cal in it. When I buy factory ammo I still have to buy .243 win and that’s what goes down on the ticket. im failing to see what’s so difficult here ? 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 Down to your local FLD/FLO, recently had a ‘6mm’ rifle added by Wilts as I was still looking at either 6-6.5x47 or 6mm Dasher. Had previously, Devon and Cornwall, converted a 22 hornet to 22K, was told by them ‘basically ‘ ‘don’t worry’ in writing. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 All forces should grant the bore size only eg 6mm etc. They dont. Some do however, mine being an example. You usually get bore size back when you apply for something, not on the computer. My 6mmAR was granted, and is listed as a 6mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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