well all i can say is i love my remmy,s, i dont want a 1 hole 10 shot group at 2000 yds, ive never had a bad one and i hit and kill what im shootingat, but if you wanna spend a bit of your cash on your remmy do it, its money well spent, but a friend of mine had a nice remmy in 223 rem, and it shot i/2 at 100yds straight out of the box, he got it blueprinted a jewel trigger, had the h.s stock bedded, paid a few bob on it, guess what it shot? 1/2 group, i think most factory rifles could do with a bit fettling, but thats why they call them a factory rifle, remington. ruger. winchester. tikka. sako. brno cz. howa. so its up to you what road you go down. cheers dave.