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Well, yes, but rather a negative take. How are you visualising the UK communication between caller and recipient taking place? No mobile phones. VHF/ phonebox only? Individuals without gps, but carrying relevant maps or charts? That sounds like a scenario from the era of Heartbeat😂😊 For UK use, ithe what3words comparator is against the inaccuracy of gps postcodes: Imagine you're calling an ambulance (presumably, from a phonebox, because your scenario doesn't envisage havinh a mobile phone) to someone in a large car park - what3words will get them within 3 metres. Postcode or address, if you know it, would just get them to the general area, and then you'd have to try to talk them in...from the phonebox. Lat Long? Good luck with finding your Lat Long in that car park, to similar accuracy, without a gps: Carrying an air nav chart when you go shopping, being able to determine your Lat Long from that chart, and then passing that Lat Long on a 999 call (again, from a phonebox, because you don't have a mobile phone) and it being understood and useable by a recipient also without a gps but, happily, with a chart covering where you happen to be. (Think a helo could prob deal with it (albeit, almost certainly with dig lat long into a gps, rather than charts) but anyone else: no chart, no understanding of lat long, blank face) Same goes for grid ref without gps: You'd have to be out shopping carrying the correct map sheet in the car park (does anyone?!) and be able to map read precisely to 8fig anywhere; and then pass the grid by phone (again, from a phonebox, because you don't have a mobile phone) to someone else who not only has the same sheet, but can also map read to 8 fig - I doubt most emergency vehs carry full 1:50,000 OS mappage for their whole area, or, other than mtn rescue, have many (any?) responders trained in reading such maps to 8fig. Or.. less dramatic... you're meeting a pal's picnic group at a massive outdoor concert ...what3words gets you within 3m in the open space covered by crowds of people I can only see postives, and nothing to be reflexively cynical about. 😊

Heads-up to a really clever app for sharing gps locations to the nearest 3m, without using Lat Long. Emergency services in my neck of the woods have started using it. And great for RVing with people/family at precise, rather than vague, locations: https://what3words.com/about-us/

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😂 Yup, 6cm, great calibre - but, too much for fox? ☺

Excellent! Well done! 😊

Stunning.

Got it - don't think I can try it from mobile app as can't see url. And..a security glitch? Can you link other people's photos that they've shared to you as a friend, and set not to be public?

😂😂 (mis)understood!

How'd you do that?! Affected by privacy settings?

My personal micro-experience was exchanging an email with a legal clerk with whom I have zero, zip, nada connection beyond that email - within hours, they appeared as a 'friend suggestion' on fb. Big (secret and misused) data. FB is deffo not a place to electronically network yourself to unknown people with an unknown data footprint that may get you placed in parts of an intelligence venn diagram that you wouldn't choose ...and I keep getting ads for russian wives, which makes no sense (😂😂) [Tel, just scanned that talk you mentioned; pity she links it to Brexit, which will prob switch off 50% of readers, but I like her line that 'FB is a crime scene, and they hold all the evidence']

Yeah, but here, your personal data and pics aren't getting secretly cross referenced to ALL your other web activity, your online banking, your email accounts, your email content, all the pages you visit, all your searches etc and sold and re-sold and re- sold for whatever uses to whoever wants it........ just a thought 😉 😊

Great pics! (Who's the prize giver?)

I've not been able to. I don't think the functionality exists.

Very interesting - I see they also tried a Lancaster oval bore version; I suspect that the Lancaster version would, arguably, qualify as smoothbore in UK law (?)

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😂 Lapua offer the doppler drag data in their app. I think they're the only bullet manufacturer to offer that in the civ market. I think calling BCs a 'con job' is an odd take. BC are a legacy from the old days and provided manageable best-fit modelling to early (pre-doppler) military ballisticians. They were 'invented' by the military, for the military - intially, almost exclusively artillery. ....things like FACE, AFDC and MFDC used best fit modelling 😉 Subsequently, significantly, post-war, I would imagine, hobbyists took hold too. The only conning I could imagine being associated with BCs, would be bullet manufacturers providing 'optimistic' BCs for their products, knowing joe public couldn't readily test them and would buy the apparently 'fastest' bullets. ....and I'd utterly disagree about drift! (odd that he compared a deterministic lateral displacement quantifiable in metres (in, for example .338 / 8.59 within effective ranges) to BC fudges?! Wind deflection would have been sequitur) was he also a shooting hobbyist (I suspect so, if he was even aware of BCs) beating a pet hobby horse?!😁

Andy, thanks, but I think Shuggy may be able to outrun me on this stuff! 😁😊 As to inputs, don't know. I think anything 'Litz' is likely to be 'on' in this respect. For auto latitude, the thing would need gps. For bearing of fire, either a data entry field or an ability to point the gps (compass) at the tgt and press 'on'.

Yup. Thanks 😊 In that one he's making the point about latitude and bearing of fire inputs. ...if they're not updated for every change to bearing of fire or new shooting location, the outputs will be wrong. Sh11t in. Sh11t out. SISO. Found another one, where he went a bit flat earth: http://forum.snipershide.com/threads/coriolis-effect-shooting-east-and-west.6871954/#js-post-6904777 There's definitely a confusion of effects being talked about, and that's getting meshed with some apps appearing to miss steps. We've all agreed disciplines that allow sighters rather negate the requirement, I suppose, it's worth saying that if you always shoot on the same range, or in the same valley, at a target on the same compass bearing, the effect will not change from occasion to occasion, and is also rendered irrelevant in those circumstances. I think it's important to split away SISO (failure to update/input bearing of fire and latitude for each occasion) and any 'badly scienced' apps that may be around, from the effect itself, which is real and deterministic. Properly updated&inputted on a 'properly scienced' app, why would anyone choose to ignore a deterministic part of the error budget?

As per earlier post, agree with everyone saying sighters render coriolis irrelevant. That said, I'm surprised to read that different apps are treating coriolis differently, and that some are believed not to factor in velocity decay. As Pops said, that would be a bit of a pre-school error, but then, apps are written by people who are good at writing apps. The only benefit I can imagine from turning coriolis off, would be no longer having to input shot latitude and bearing of fire for each shot. So, a reduced data entry requirement. Anyone got a link to Frank G's thoughts (which, being as they're pals, will probably mirror thinking at Rifles Only)?

Attached Litz's piece on it. The effects of coriolis vary according to both latitude and bearing of fire. The effects are deterministic (ie you can quantify them with certainty) and make sense to include if your shooting discipline doesn't allow you sighters. But, with sighters allowed, coriolis is a layer of detail that, as others said earlier, is probably not worth bothering with.😊 ABDOC108_GyroscopicAndCoriolis.pdf

Eye opening stuff! - I know nothing about these capabilities.

Yup. Have to say though, I've tried/heard some shockers that don't even give the (false) impression of being ear safe.... one particular Brit brand leaps to mind. As regards diminishing returns on firearms launching supersonic projectiles, I'm not sure I understand where the similarly logarithmic increased cash spend chasing the Nth degree of suppression sits against the realities of supersonic crack?

Bit of a long day....