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Quite amused to read momentum types being triggered by Gove's speech - absolute outrage that their anti-semitism and Corbyn's terrorist toadying had been mentioned. Really hope their blind hate has been written out of British politics.

What a genuine relief. Hopefully, that's a captive-bolting for the thoroughly nasty, hateful and racist politics of momentum. Hopefully, also, the new Con seats will force a Con shift nearer centre-politics as the size of the majority emasculates some of the party factions.

Right, I suspect it's prudent that we lock this until tomorrow.

It's not that. The corbynites have taken us to a place where we can't discuss our own nationality whilst they spew their hate (see vid). There's something fundamentally wrong with that And I really am at the point where I pigeonhole anyone who claims corbynite anti-semitism is all a media invention, or not relevant, as being an anti-semite themself. I wonder if we should close this thread so we don't all fall out over this pish? Thoughts?

Disturbing. The anti-semitic reality.

Don't see anything wrong with question or the answer given - but it's a classic diversionary question that hopes to elicit a 'racist' response. I'd certainly be interested in hearing , pops, how would you define englishness? - We're quite happy to have Sturgeon bang on about Scottishness - I'd like to understand why englishness can't be discussed.

😂 Can't argue that Boris isn't an arsehole, but, I do wonder, how anyone can rate being a self-interested, rather disingenuous toff, as being a greater evil than being an anti-semitic toadie to the IRA and any-and-all islamist terrorists.

Voting for a PM who's so intensely anti-Western, anti-semitic and Stalinist that he has to be kept 'well under control' not to damage our country?! Just ponder on that as an intelligent choice 🤔 😊

The entire point is he didn't 'simply shake hands' with them. Just as when a Corbynite says something anti-semitic, they aren't just 'saying something silly and thoughtless'; they're anti-semites.

Pretty thoughtful stuff, Dave.

Well, being honest, I'm still a little bit undecided about the direction of my vote this coming Thursday. Obviously, I've taken into consideration what I consider to be the following major factors on the two main parties: On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh. And on the other hand.. Labour's Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing. Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna. Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney. Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament. Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson. Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly. Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane. Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists. Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS. Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview. Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time. Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview. Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths. Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants. Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers. Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain. Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant. Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists. Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing. Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey. Didn’t support IRA ceasefire. Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“. Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list. Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“. Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist. Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP. Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag. Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun. Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker. Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“. Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime. Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS. Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria. Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted. Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela. Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“. Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader. Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria. Opposed shoot to kill. Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC. Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects. Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS. Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel. Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK. Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”. Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”. Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”. Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich. Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal. Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”. Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC. Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO. Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times. Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad. Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah. Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda. Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS. Received endorsement from Hamas. Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani. Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS. Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel. Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage. Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers. Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today. Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir. Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers. Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel. Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group. Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg. Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group. Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings. Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops. Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”. Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj. Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”. Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer. Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta. Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen. Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences. Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services. Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel. Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John. Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”. Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible. Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks. Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”. Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain. Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime. Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic. Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”. Voted against banning support for the IRA. Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles. Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11. Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group. Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism. Voted against banning al-Qaeda. Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror. Voted against control orders. Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism. So it’s a tricky one really.

Breaking news: Yet another achingly 'anti-racist' Labour politician has just bitten the dust: "I'm not an anti-semite, but..." The 'right kind of Jews' ?!? You fekking what?!

Genau

Labour are going to plant 200 trees per minute until further notice - the seedlings don't exist nor is there sufficient land available... And an oak tree only sequesters 1 ton of C per 100 years, whilst we all produce 10 tons each annually. It's all cobblers from all sides. ...and I'd suggest there's more to play for than single-issue voting on licensing proposals that are similarly cobblers promises not even worth the ink. 😊

I think you're spot on - except, of course, he isn't a university graduate. I tend to think of him exactly as an anti-establishment trot protester of that era, but all fart and no sh1t; sort of a Baader-Meinhoff type, but without the balls. 😂

I suppose, as a PS... it may not suit the narrative of 'system paranoia', but it may surprise you to learn that I'd probably actually vote Green if it weren't for first-past-the-post; but I'm simply not prepared to play any part in risking having 3 people come to government who, for decades, actively supported the terrorists who murdered so many of my brothers-in-arms and innocent civilians.

In many of his speeches. I'm not sure what else you want if you're tin-foil hat about the press; I don't have his rail tickets nor do I have forensic evidence of his attendance at events, such as the Wolfe Tone Society just after the Loughall shootings, at which he stood for a minute's silence for the dead IRA terrorists and later said "I'm happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland". Or for McDonnell, when he said, in 2003 "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. Because of the bravery of the IRA, we now have a peace process' Or Abbott, when she said in 1984: "every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us". Of course, if they didn't say those things .... or lay wreaths in those places; they'd sue the press for defamation or libel; wouldn't they? But they haven't. Odd. It's interesting, Corbynites- and it's rather nearer being part of a cult than a political movement - will 'blind eye' anything anything negative about Great Leader by the (tin foil hat) 'system'. We won't agree 😊 and I'm too bored by it all to dig out video clips of Corbynites saying things along the lines of 'I'm not anti-semitic, but 'they' do seem to have all the money and power' I will just observe that Marxism is endemically anti-semitic. Just read some of what Marx wrote. 😊

We'll disagree, but his support for the IRA is well documented; and belittled by the term 'propaganda'.

I keep hearing about 'trust' with Johnson - and I think he's a toerag - but I think there's a bigger trust issue at play - an opposition front bench, non of whom could pass security vetting, with a consistent, anti-Western, pro-terrorist, marxist ideology (I'd be stunned if none of them were Cold War 'useful idiots' to the USSR et al.) The 'yoof' don't even know who the IRA were. I can never forget.

Good question. Picking a favourite turd from a field of sh1t.

Lost my G2, looking to buy a replacement just now, and learnt they're no longer made. Anyone have a recommendation as to the current 'standard' g2 equivalent?

I also notice Hamilton have brought one out too https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-hamilton-pilot-pioneer-mechanical

Bloody nails. Chapeau.

My memory has the factory ammo being unreproducable with identical chargeweights of either 140 or 150; I remember the deduction back then was that the powder in the commercially loaded stuff sat somewhere between 140 and 150(?)