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After several dead ends I settled on the flux capacitor method.

It is indeed.

Here's another one

Have you tried David at the Shooting Shed? I know he did some for the original CM

I regularly load .357 for my Winchester 94AE with 158gn cast lead bullets but these are fairly low accurate loads for our 25 yard indoor range. I use 4.5gn Unique for around 1,050 fps.

It looks like that would work - but a lot more involved than necessary I would think, (apart from being obsolete and $33 a pop :)) I'd either need a Labradar to check the in/out or a trigger it's self.

I made something similar a while ago only more complicated than required here. This was a set-up for air rifle/pistol training using a laser. The idea is that it would fit on any rifle/pistol so it could be used for practice with a laser target with no modification to the pistol. It has a rechargeable 5v battery pack the small sensor unit and the laser attachment. The sensor (50x20x20) contains a piezo disc, a Arduino nano micro processor and an amplifier. The sensor has a small trimmer potentiometer to adjust sensitivity. When the pistol/rifle is dry fired, the sensor "hears" the click, send the signal to the amplifier, the amplified signal goes to the microprocessor that sends a timed pulse to the laser. The sensor and battery pack is held in place with small disc magnets. I used something similar for this little rifle I made for my grandsons.

Thank for the vote of confidence Dave - Yes, should be a simple bit of kit. I've never seen one by my guess is that it uses a small Piezo crystal disc to detect the vibration and the 3d printed housing is no problem. However - the problem is....I don't have a Lab myself to play about with and, although there is one in the club I shoot with, I'm in the 70+ with bad lungs club so pretty much stuck at home.

Yes, not easy - The sad truth is that I don't score much better now, using a rest and scope, than I did when I was shooting prone competitions with just a sling and aperture sights around 50 years ago.

I've made up three for my club using the Caldwell Jnr rest and replacing the sandbag with a 19mm ply flat plate and covering it with carpet tile (heat them up with a heat gun and they form over the sides quite well) then added some 6mm aluminium "wings" to stop the rifle slipping off the ends. I also shoot NSRA benchrest which has different rules (No rear bag etc.) This ones made from laminated cork with a bit of carpet inset in the top - 4" gap. Also made up fore-end plates and scope mounts for the Internationals.

I think you're right Terry, we seem very slow on the up-take of tuners for rimfire, we seem to be stuck in some sort of 1950's time warp where a BSA Martini International with a heavy thick rigid barrel was the bench mark for .22lr accuracy and nothing much has changed since then. Although it seems every few months a "new" product has been added to the Eley line, Team, Action, Edge, Sport, Force etc, etc nothing has really changed as far as accuracy is concerned - Life was so much easier when you only had the choice of Tenex, Match or Club in a cardboard box. 🙂 I can't honestly say I've noticed any real improvement in the flat nosed Tenex/Match bullets over the older conventional ones and there still seems massive variations in different lot numbers of the same brand/type of ammunition. Here's a couple of experimental tuners I've made, one fitted to a Lilja prefit match barrel and the other on a standard factory barrel on my Sako P94S Finnfire.

Virtually all top quality .22lr target ammunition is subsonic, Eley Tenex, Match, Lapua Midas+, Centre x, x-Exact etc. The only supersonic match quality I recall is RWS 100 at around 1,130fps.

That brings back memories Saddler - I have a box of these, used to use them in my S&W Mod14 .38.

Certainly interesting to see how this pans out. Personally I think it's a bit of a longshot, you are still stuck with a heeled bullet design which can't do the BC any favours, and being a solid copper bullet I can't see it seating into the rifling easily as a lead bullet does on a short throated match rifle chamber. On the other hand, it would be great to see a .22lr being able to approach the accuracy at 100 yards we have come to expect from a good centrefire. Yes, AGUILA do a 60gn (950fps - 120ftlb) but I would have thought stability would be an issue with a standard 16 twist.

I'm pleased to see your TM is still giving good service Fizz, and you've certainly got your moneys worth out of the batteries. I've now sold TM's to 30 different countries over the years. Currently they're nearly all going to Germany/Austria, mainly because a German chap with a slick youtube channel recently posted a couple of reviews.

Or - you can even do it with a smart phone: http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/07/monitor-balance-beam-with-magnified-image-on-smartphone/

A simple, cheap and easy mod for a beam scale is to a small USB camera - this greatly enlarges the pointer, eliminates all parallax errors and mean the scale can be placed in a more convenient place, not necessarily where it can be seen easily.. And if you're tempted by an electronic dispenser :

I think it depends to a certain extent on how much you want to spend, what sort of volume you intend to load and just what sort of accuracy you are looking for. A good beam scale, costing maybe £100 should work very well, certainly as accurate (and often better) than any of the electronic auto dispensers (RCBS, Lyman, Hornady), costing £200-400. A good beam scale will still be working just well in 10, 20 or 50 years but most of the electronic scales/dispensers will be in the bin within 10 years, and often half that, in fact I believe most are only under warranty for 12 months If time is of the essence, and you are not too concerned about a few kernels either way with your charges, then something like a Chargemaster might be just the thing for you. If you're looking for speed with even more accuracy (at a cost £6-900) then the Auto-trickler, which combines an automated powder measure, a powered trickler and a high quality lab grade digital scale into one package is the way to go. What ever system you use, you need to bear in mind that a single kernel of something like Varget weighs around .02 of a grain, about 5 kernels to 10th grain (and many powders are considerably more chunky) so having a scale, as used in some atomic research lab that resolves to x figures, unless you intend to cut kernels in half, is a bit pointless. If you do decide to go for an electronic set up it's always nice to have good beam scale to fall back and as a cross reference. You won't load better ammunition than you can with a good beam scale.

I seem to remember a court case where "Rifle shooting practice" was deemed to be "The practice of rifle shooting" As in Doctors practicing medicine.

Labradar sight in the post Johnny.

Although I'm probably talking "sucking eggs" to many of you chaps who are interested in rimfire accuracy, were you aware that you can check the actual Eley test results for each individual lot of Eley Tenex or Eley Match ammunition? These give the results of the average velocity, group sizes etc. when shot through four different barrels in the Eley test facility. For example the Lot number of Eley Match I'm currently using is 1019 - 01274 (stamped on the end of the box) The 10 shows it's Match and the 19 in the first part shows manufacturing date, the second part is the machine it was made on and the lot number. Unfortunately the site is down at the moment. http://www.myeley.com/lot-analyser This Is the type of information available, just note that group sizes are outside edge rather than the more common CtoC used in centrefire group measurements. Lapua run similar test facilities but as far as I'm aware there's no access to their lot number results.

I can't deny it's a beautiful rifle and capable of excellent accuracy, as demonstrated on the steel plates, but I think the video is an poor demonstration of it's true capabilities. Showing a video of four shots with one, I would class as a flyer, and calling it "done job" is really no test at all. Having made a few videos myself, it's just so easy to show the results you want with some very simple editing. He shows four shot, three consecutive very tight then immediately cuts the video, did the fifth shot land an inch away? Was that the best three shots of a bunch of targets, it's obviously not the first as it's on top of others, so was that a cold barrel shot or not? Did he do the voice over after he had shot the target to explain why the first one was a flyer? Who knows - Three or four five shot groups on the same target might have given some genuine information - Once you are set up on the range a few extra shots takes hardy any time at all, the length of the video can be kept short if required, by double or treble speeding the dead bits. This is a series of six x five shot groups I shot some time ago - 30 consecutive shots - Eley HP subs with a £40 forty year old semi-auto - I could easily crop out the top and bottom right groups on the right hand target and claim I have a .5moa rifle but, of course, this is not so. You only need to look at the Eley lot testing system to see how when lots/batches of top quality match ammunition is shot through four different match barrels fixed in their solid test rig how the groups form.

I've no idea if these will fit your machine, but I find these silicone bread/load moulds work very well. HERE

Yes - I'm still here Can't find your email.

Another thumbs up for the P94S - I've just won the Kent summer season benchrest comp with my Finnfire.