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Wow that's a pretty bad photoshop, just shows the lengths his went to convict people his genuine.

I don't think much will be done about it from what I could ascertain. My logic was, if they where willing to meet me down a lane with cash for a firearm that I was buying. The worst outcome would be to give me a kicking and take the cash. If they where willing to do that then what's to stop them arranging to buy a firearm and doing the same.

Hi, Phill I also got the same address where they wanted me to go and collect the firearm from. I did pass it onto the Police although it's probably just been picked at random off the internet.

It’s reported to the police. I think it’s difficult to do much about it but at least there is a record of it. The ad is actually a genuine ad from Nebraska lifted by the scammers.

Yes looks that way, they obviously haven’t spotted this post yet. Very polite, I’d still think it was %100 genuine if I’d not already seen the duplicate add.

Yeah I continued the email conversation They wanted me to drive to an address down a lane in Kirkby Stephen to do the deal with cash. Not good at all.

Just a heads up gents, I placed an ad as I'm still looking for a 223 AR-15 Aero Precision. Today I received an email from a member on here who joined on Wednesday "annexgunz1" hopefully admin can delete. telling me he knows a guy called Baros in Cumbria selling exactly that and passed me his email. (cokerbaros@gmail.com) Lo and behold Baros replies with pictures and a description of the perfect rifle. After asking for details I received the following. When I said I could collet it all went quiet. A quick searched revealed the exact same rifle for sale in Nebraska. here is the link http://www.nextechclassifieds.com/listings/1735231/ also sporting the same description. I'm not sure if this is a common scam but be warned there is people out there trying to rob you of you're hard earned cash. I'm still on the hunt for something similar to the AR in the scam so if any genuine sellers are out there feel free to contact me.

I found this too to confuse things some more 😂 Practise is the "repeated performance or systematic exercise for the purpose of acquiring skill or proficiency". The word 'practice' on the other hand, refers to "exercise or pursue as a profession, art or occupation". The doctor is a "practitioner" (noun) who is trained in medical practice.

It's probably best to do it in writing Roy. You'd have to give a reason on record then if it's a no can do.

All great points and very interesting, I wouldn't say a vermin FAC shooter shooting on a range is a loop hole id say its specifically put on the certificate so it can be done. What's interesting is my FAC states "zeroing-practice on ranges" This is a really broad statement and it could be interpreted as more than zeroing. How can you practice at zeroing surely its something that's just done. You could practice marksmanship and improve accuracy and shot consistency in line with shooting quarry. You could even shoot at deer shaped targets 🤣. One could ask for the "Target-shooting" to be added with something along the lines of; Please may I have target-shooting condition amended to my FAC. I intend to shoot targets for zeroing accurately and to practice. Also to test reloads and enter the odd competition as a guest on ranges. I note that under the conditions on my FAC in section 5 it already states zeroing practice on ranges, but would just like to add the amendment to the cert if possible to cover the other activities. They can only say no.

From what I can ascertain it depends on the club rules. From reading on the internet and other shooters experiences. It's established its possible to shoot on a range as a guest and not be a member. This is fact even when your FAC is for shooting over land/Vermin.You can not do this the other way round though. This would make sense as I'm not a club member but my FAC is open so I can travel anywhere. It also states I can shoot on a range for zeroing and practice. I'd like to think the legislation on the FAC has been thought out and wouldn't have been put on there if it wasn't possible. The practice part to me would probably cover testing self reloads and seeing how they work out for accuracy at different distances. The "practice" part before the "zeroing" wold also indicate that's it's not restricted to zeroing alone. If you click the link below you will see this range will allow you to do exactly that but limits visits to three times a year, others don't have a limit https://www.barryshootingcentre.co.uk/membership-faqs/

Apologies if I come across augmentative. I'm just trying to get clear facts. I appreciate you have insight into range shooting. I have non as a civvi. I'm competent and safe on a range and would like to know the possibility to use one to check zero my rifles after paying the fee for use. It's not going to be in the interest of a shooting clubs to do it this way but it appears some do allow it and it can be done. Also from a bit of research it seems you can add target shooting to a fac without being in a club. I could be wrong but it would be nice to know.

43 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: The relevance was the part where you said this bit: By the way, you won't get near a MoD range without being a probationer under supervision or holding a SCC (NRA safe shooters card)

Thanks, I've shot on most of the the MOD rages in the country, during the day and night time just not a a civvi. It's the non MOD ranges I'd use to zero as they are closer and therefore more convent. Seems as though you have an issue with guys who are not members of a shooting club using a range.

Yes I can see what your saying, What I'm saying is its obviously a grey area. I beg to differ with respect to 5 rounds. What if someone wants to check zero different bullets at different zero distances. And just generally see how different loads affect zeroing. Or as you stated are having some technical issues with the rifle. It would not be easy to define. Shooting at a target is shooting at a target. And who would be counting. As a side note looking around the internet guys have been advised by FAO's to just not enter competitions if using a range. I'd like to see an example of someone being prosecuted. It also appears that you can have Target shooting on a FAC without being a member of a shooting club. I'd be interested if any one can conform this. People seem to have done it without paying for a variation. Guys that soot over land also have FMJ on their tickets for targets too. Seems allot of grey area in this. Let's not forget that you initially told me you can't shoot on a range without being a member of a club full stop. And for the record before I visit a range with my own rifles to zero i'll defiantly try to obtain target shooting to be safe what's to lose by doing this.