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YHM.

Yes please.

Brilliant competition as usual and big thanks to Mark and Helen and of course the volunteers that RO'd and the spotters, without them nothing happens so well done all. Very tricky conditions with constantly changing conditions and some really good stages. Well done Joe, great shooting and great to see two ladies out shooting with us. Thanks to all in my squad with the usual banter and craic. Just good to be a out and back to some form of normality.

Kevdutch, update your location please.

Its not going on a traditional scope.

Shotgunner, what size is it? If its the extra large size i'll take it.

Akeld, thanks very helpful.

I'm looking for a picatinny torch/illuminator mount that fits to the picatinny on top of the action but places the torch/illuminator to the right of the action. Anyone aware of one?

Big H, fill in you right profile please.

Its already been said that the morning stages were slow but judging by how much progress the range has made since I last visited for the last comp earlier in the year I'm sure that will be addressed. I think the stages were all very good, a good balance between difficulty and being de moralised😂 and yes the apex roof was my downfall, well that and stage 6 where a couldn't quite twist my old body comfortably enough for a steadylefthand shot. I would also say the blinktroll target is probably the best stage/target i think I've ever shot. And the addition of the electronic target for your last shot on one stage was a clever and inventive use of technology to provide a winner of a prize - well done Paul on your shot. Thanks for a good event.

So has anyone tried it in a 6.5 Creedmoor? Is it a barrel burner and what were the velocities like? I usually use RS62/140eldms, just wondering if there's a gain with N555.

Plinker, fill your profile in please.

I doubt its aimed at anyone intending to do real work with it, the jap pickups have that market cornered anyhow. More aimed towards the chelsea set now. Having said that I recently followed one around a Land Rover experience day and it did seem very capable but as previously said they are all too complicated to fix when in the real outback. As for the previous defenders, I don't see the attraction, god awful things to ride any distance in.

Ronins 260ai is impressive. By way of real workd comparison to a creedmoor shooting 140eldms at 2850fps it has .5mil less elevation and .4mil less windage for a full value 10mph wind at 700mtrs.

The competition was a well run and more importantly a safe event. The weather was poor first thing so the start was a little delayed with light drizzle for the morning giving way to better weather in the afternoon. The venue is impressive and its obvious there's been a serious amount of hard work and forethought put into the range. The competition was shot over 8 stages with RCO, spotter and marker for each stage with the RCO giving targetry, time limit and safety brief on each stage with a clear Hit or Miss given on each shot - well done to those individuals, it makes a huge difference to the shooters. The targets were robust and each with a good backstop that was 'dumb' when damp but gave good feedback once they started to dry out. All the distances were sensible with the shorter range targets used for the more difficult multi positional stages, my particular favourite being an UKD stage consisting of three targets spaced around a hillside - a very well thought out stage. The image below shows the range with targetry out to 2000mtr. The berm on the far left is the 1000yd F class target and there is also a moving target in the centre of the range just to the left of the access road.

But then surely if a bullet was jammed it would create higher chamber pressure and hence a different barrel time. Surely there must be a corelation somewhere. And how are the factory loads explained such as gold medal match that seams to shoot in any reasonable 308?

All very interesting. With regard to chasing the lands once a precise load is found I also tend not to revisit my loads until the barrel is what I expect to be half way through it's useable lifespan and then if necessary retune the load. Which makes me wonder about all the jump to the lands etc, is it that dimension that really makes the difference or are we actually adjusting chamber pressure and or optimal barrel time?

No it won't in my experience. I run PMII's on several left handed bolt rifles including a custom Remmy clone action. You should be fine.

Just a short clip of how quick it is in use. videocompress-050-20200516_210124.mp4

Here's my set up. I made a simple stand from some stainless steel tube with an aluminium table. The table has a very simple trap door, slide the lever to the right and the annealer case drops into the hi tech resepticle below... 6.5x47 cases takes 2.1 seconds. I ordered the water cooler for the coil, the foot switch and the adjustable height scissor lift from fluxeon at the same time. I had planned to fully automate it but it's so simple and quick to use I'm not sure I will.

Thanks for the information.

Somebody just bought a lovely spec'd rifle. Alan did you record what velocity you got on the rounds fired? And what were they? Thanks.

You should be able to bump the shoulders back a few thousandths with the FL dies without drastically resizing the body although if you do I doubt it would be sufficient as to cause a detriment to accuracy. You do not say if you anneal or not or how many times the brass has been fired and if your chamber is standard or not? If you don't anneal, from my experience the shoulder bumping can be less consistent than that of annealed brass but you'll have to try it. Try not to get side tracked by the other information offered by some other posts. A lot of information offered is not really relevant to simply bumping shoulders back a few thou. Once you have bumped the shoulders try a case in your chamber and see how it feels. Prior good advise is this is best done with any spring ejector or fire mechanism removed from the bolt as it provides better feel to the bolt. If you are sure your shoulders have been bumped and the case still gives resistance to closing the bolt easily then its time to investigate possible other causes. I would suggest looking at the overall case length and checking that it is within spec for your calibre/chamber and trimming if necessary. If the case still doesn't chamber nicely then start looking at diameter changes on the case body. To resize the body only use a body die and forget any notion of trying to reduce the diameter of the case drastically with a FL die as doing so will bump the shoulder still further. That may result in poor ignition as the firing pin pushes the case forward or if resized excessively a dangerous over pressure situation if your reloads are already in the upper part of powder charge.

Everything gets fire cracked at the throat. Look further down the barrel and see how far it extends to determine 'how' goosed the barrel is.

Scotch, absolutely agree.