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If your using a compressed load this could cause it too.. Try the lighter neck tension method first though 👍

I still hunt Dave.. Every week at least twice unless I'm up Bisley. The ELDX's will/should shoot as good as any target bullet if its BC is correct and consistant. According to my bal cal figures it only gives away 1 inch at 1000yds to a 180gr scenar.. Side tracking a bit there What jump did the 162gr ELDM's like in your 7mm..? They gottabe the same shape 🤔

What jump do they like..? I've been working on 7mm 162gr ELDX's and I'm nearly done with trying them....!! Cheers NID

I'm not sure what the 300wsm brass availability is. I fancy trying one myself as they are so say less prone for elevations like the 7mm's can, there extremely accurate,easy too tune and a huge selection of bullets.. the 300wsm does give away a little windage to the saum according to my bal cal but not much. More powder and more recoil though and they've become very popular with f class. Gary Costello former world and European champion used his to good effect to win the GB f class league again last year.

I usually get my brass from Gary Costello at March scopes. Failing that Mik at dolphin engineering or Spud. If it's for longrange plinking then the 284 will more than adequate and yield for more barrel life. It will muller any wild creatures we shoot and very accurate.. you've seen the photo of a very recent group with my 284 using 180gr ELDM's. It shoots most bullets I've tried sub 0.5 inches or better on the first loads I've tried without any load development The saum is better suited as a for the range in a heavier gun as it's quite pokey. It would be unpleasant to shoot without a mod or a muzzle brake with a 13lb gun. The 284 would too come too that but I use one or the other. In f class you use a heavy gun which helps against the recoil. Probaly the majority of gunsmith use tight necked chambers so it's extra case prepp. The advantage of the saum is the extra speed which drifts less in the wind. The 7wsm has a little more speed but less efficient so I've read.

Genius...!!! Not something I thought about. Ideal for ammo testing in these hot conditions 👍

If your considering a 7mm saum Dasherman will sort you out. It's an efflient cartridge that can push a 180gr plus high BC bullet fast enough and accurate enough to win. It looks like a 6.5x47 on steroids

Having a quick too at pm2 reticles you have load of hold over.. Look up you reticle and see how much in mils or moa the hash marks are apart from dead centre and add it to what you can dial.

What reticle is it in the scope. I'd imagine you have 7 to 10 minutes on your reticle if you have hash marks or mildots on the bottom half

It could be either 😁 Could be neither 😉

Oh it's Justin's disciple again 😂 What a co-incidence 🤪

As usual its likely to have been driver error 😁. As you well know these random verticle shots happen. All part of the fun.. If we straited every stage it would get boring.

This was the first 1000yds detail Sunday morning.. It was going well until the 13th shot.. No I deer on why it went there 😂🤣

0.5 minutes is what you need really. Mine was about 3/4 minute.. more than likely driver error or the conditions.!!! My first 9 shots was 1/4 minute 😊 The rifle/load is probaly capable. There quite a few shooters on here that could post some better plot sheets than this..It just one from the British championships 1/4 minute is possible.. The conditions dictate the results

I checked my score sheet and I had 3 & 1/8 minutes mean wind on. I did aim off at the edge of the 5 ring several times on the drop offs. For anybody who's intrested here's a photo of my plot sheet.. My siters are ringed. I converted my siters.. Started V then 5 which is a nice way to start 😁. It wasn't brilliant but decent..

Without looking back at my score sheets I can't remember what mean wind I had in. The contrast between Saturday and Sunday couldn't of been more different.... High windy and heavy rain too a glorious sunshine 😂. Saturday was a struggle. Sunday started well dropping only 1 shot in the first detail.. My 5 dropped shots on the last detail cost me several places.. All good fun though.. Roll on the next one 😁

All 20 of there shots were inside the 1 moa 5 ring. 10 inches for you that are not familiar with f class.. I was on the detail before that and there was a bit more wind picking up and easing and had a 95/6 or 7 I think.. I was aiming from one side the vbull to the other.. my wind calls were decent and if I held waterline I could have shot a 99/6 or 7. I absalutely loved the competition. It's a great weekend. I really hope the European championships go ahead 🤞 I think im right in saying when they shot them outstanding scores the wind completely died and they were aiming dead centre.. A record that could stand for a very long time..!!

It's people who I shoot with at Dorset rifleman and the GB f class league so don't take any notice. A note in the British f class championships DrT set a new 1000yds GB f class record 100/14.. 20 shots too count plus 2 siter which are convertible. 14 out of his 20 shots were inside the 5 inch vbull. Another friend of ours Paul Sandie current world No2 shot a 100/12 on the same detail who must of been gutted when he saw DrT's score 🤪. Two outstanding scores 😎

I tried a ladder test with my 7mm saum and 184gr hybrids last year and I will try it again for sure.. Watching the bullets climb then shoot flat then suddenly climb again. I did mine from 300yds. I think it was after 8 shots it plateau'd for the next 12 shots I think before it climbed.. it was about 0.687 oai verticle dispersion for the 12 shots.. I used 1/10 of a grain increments.. f open set up..

Don't you start aswell 😁 No crossfires reported 😁 For people who didn't know Elwood won the British championships 🏆

I had 2 blank targets at 300yds,when alot of my shots vbulls and just out the top in the 5 ring which was my fault I should of dialled down an 1/8. FFS I'm not going to miss the whole target and backer 🤩. I'm really not that bad Tom. 9th at the British championships was a decent finish I was shooting with Steve Poutlney at the time I had 2 blank targets and we were both were stunned and questioned it.... About my 5th shot then the 10th shot.... Poo happens

Who ask you too butt in 😁. Don't you worry Tom I didn't miss..!!! He'll get some blow up sooner or later 🤣😂. It's just a matter of time...!!!

Our bullets are from the same lot number or most of them I think.. Justin read off 2 different lot numbers. He had several boxes off me to top up his stash after my blow ups 🤔. Is your chamber being throated from the ELDM's..?? They have a long bearing surface similar to scenars. If it's being reamed with I think is .220 freebore reamer the 180gr eldm will be in the donut area as they are in mine which was throated for 184gr hybrids. Fine if you haven't any donuts. They like to just kiss the lands.. Mine are set 1 to 2 thousanths in on both my saum barrels when I tried them and with my 284 so I can't see why they wouldn't for you.. Justin's are seated the same or was.

I try too use up my bullets rather than leave them at the back of the cupboard.

Oh thrush is back 😆