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Thanks Terry.. I'm out at the mo on a permission ready to try.. 150yds,200yds,250 and 300.. Started pissing down soon as I got here.. I've got the ranges pegged out but I may need to move.. Got some shelter from a hedge as wind is left too to right.. hedge is on my left.. I'll see how 150yds goes.. I will move into a field and have a tail wind for the longer shots. Going too use the reticle for 25 moa.. see how the holdover works at 150yds first

I have got one of them rubber barrel tuners. I tried it on the winnie subs but found the improvement in the groups wernt repeatable but that may have been down to that they didn't like my barrel much.. As my barrel likes the eley match the tuner might actually improve it a bit.. Just a little bit would make it really good

Cheers bud. I think I will try torqing a bit I 👍

It must have been you who said what torque setting was.. I did have a gut feeling it was you.. You gottabe the right one too ask then...!! Do you think I'll see a difference in group size if I torque up a little more.. I'm not unhappy with the eley match that's for sure.. the rifle hasn't ever shot aswell.. The old eley subs were 0.5 inch grouping ammo and better at times.. Eley match have produced sub 1/4 which is bloody good out of my CZ452 varmint

I'm wondering whether to torque up the actions screw a tad more to see if there's any improvement.. One of you on here told me what the torque settings are for a CZ452 but I've forgotten what I did them up too.. I know that since torqing them the 42gr winnie subs shoot much worse than they did before I changed it from a really tight feel tension.. As tight as I would go...!! Today's worst group was 0.510. Best was 0.329. Measured centre too centre. After the first group top left with good elevations I thought that's better here we go then right target didn't repeat. I'm curious to see if a bit more torque improves it 🤔

Had another play. Got a box of tenex to try.. Both top groups 5 shots with tenex.. 2 x 5 shot groups underneath eley match.. Same conditions as last time.. Just watched and listened for the wind too drop off. I think it's down to driver error and set up.

Set up . 9 mag just isn't precise enough 60yds parallax

Playing again. Top left I aimed at the bottom if the white disc.. Top right at the middle.. Both 10 shot groups with 42gr winnie subs.. It is pretty drafty upon a exposed batch. 2nd group down on the right is a 10 shot group with eley match.. The elevation spread was worse than I'd hoped.. Off a Harris pod and a sand sock for a change that's why I expected less verticle.. Shot from 50yds

Nice group. I had a bit of a plink yesterday to use up a box of eley subs.. Shotgun pattern compared to eley match. The match were much less affected by the wind aswell.

I'll get a V4 or wait for the V5 lol. I honestly don't mind trickling the powder with my fingers too 0.02grs or within 1 kernal but I will still get a V4 at some point. I charge and seat one at a time unlike what I see others do with the V3 and V4.. Charge all the cases then seat.. It's just a routine I got in.. On average it takes me about 1 minute to do 1 cartridge to seat everyone within 1 thousandth..

Lucky you 🙃

Not usually my cup of tea but it does look nice...

Hi Pete.. I'm all for shooters trying these things if there's something to gain or save.. Winning in the wind is Keith Glasscocks series of videos. He covers lots of different things/procedures he does for F class shooting. These American shooters get through alot of bullets compared to us.. This HBN coating may work well for other disciplines but it doesn't appear to work in f class 🤔. Atb NID

Top American f class shooters Keith Glasscock being the main one who did a video on bullet coatings. It makes no odds to me use what you want.. Just saying what I saw/know on the subject now..

I've watched a video on YouTube and some American f class shooters tried HBN and saw no benefit of using it and went back to clean barrels and naked bullets.

Thank you sir 👍

Maybe others who have tried the RFD's will give their opinion of them..!! I've considered trying them several times but I've not got around too it yet.

Furrybean knows a fair bit about shooting a 308 and the projectiles associated with top level shooting so you can trust his opinions 👍

It might help if you say what factory ammo it is your selling 🤔 Atb NID

That's coming from somebody who knows more than most about 7mm cartridges 🙃

There's alot of f open shooters on here and they'd of tried most of the powders suitable. I know quite a few of them and I've not heard of anybody using IMR 4831 but that's not to say their not.. If somebody found something that had an edge they would keep quiet 🙃

Stick with N165... Most use it..!! Accuracy wins

Nigel has it set up for precision engineering stuff.

I was chatting with some other ukv users at a club match the other week and they too couldn't get up the wanted section in classifieds.. I thought it may of been they weren't signed in but that wasn't the case 🤔

My forster 6.5x47 die still has the expander ball on it and I use a mandrel for neck tension.. Can't say over working the brass made any difference for me... My brass did 15 firings before I scrapped it.. Nothing wrong with the necks... it was annealed regularly.