Re-Pete Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I think there were quite a few shooters who became depressed/ill purely as a result of having legally held guns confiscated back in '97..... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 1:51 PM, Popsbengo said: Yes, that occurred to me - resources already strained, hardly likely to get additional help. The Gun Control Network and other anti-gun campaigners, including many ill-informed politicians will be more than happy to see the cost of any amount of additional resources deemed necessary heaped directly on the shooters. Another X hundred pounds on the cost of an application/renewal will see another tranche of shooters lost. (My local medical practice already requires £80 to tick the medical forms) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezmobile Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 hours ago, 1066 said: The Gun Control Network and other anti-gun campaigners, including many ill-informed politicians will be more than happy to see the cost of any amount of additional resources deemed necessary heaped directly on the shooters. Another X hundred pounds on the cost of an application/renewal will see another tranche of shooters lost. (My local medical practice already requires £80 to tick the medical forms) Hm, £80 for what must take 10 minutes.......Nice work if you can get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, ezmobile said: Hm, £80 for what must take 10 minutes.......Nice work if you can get it I expect you speak from a position of knowledge there? No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 The time taken to check someones' records will surely depend on how many visits they've made to the GP in the 10 years preceding the application.......... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 I guess everyone is aware of this service that is available for medical report. Medical reports for UK firearms and shotgun certificates (firearmsmedicalreports.co.uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1066 said: I guess everyone is aware of this service that is available for medical report. Medical reports for UK firearms and shotgun certificates (firearmsmedicalreports.co.uk) That's a really useful link, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yes, thanks for that link...........might come in handy, as my GP for the last 25 years retired a year ago, and I have a renewal coming up early next year... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 I used MedCert for my renewal in December, no bother, 50 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 village doc £55 🤙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard griffith Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 £104 cash only here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Free for me. Maybe a Welsh thing, but never been charged by my GP during renewals or variations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 TV license £795.00 for 5 years OR FAC and SGC £111.00 for 5 years ( renewal) docs report say £65 average for 5 years total of £176 for the same period or £35.20 a year its hard to work out which one is the bargain …. A fair number of Shooters do make me chuckle , on my shoot days I will have people turn up in £90K Range Rover wearing £1000 of crap and a shotgun worth 3-10K , pay £300 for a day , then another £50 on a meal , all while bitching to me that the price of cartridges have gone up £10 per 1000 FAC holders are no different, we don’t think twice about spending hundreds of pounds on reloading crap that we seem to think we need . A doctors charge for service is just insignificant and lost within in the £££ we spend in five years 🤣 my village doctors charge me £55 to sign off my tickets and I’ll be honest and say I have no problem with it . After all we’re effectively asking someone to ( for want of another word ) vouch for us , I would certainly not be happy to put my name and professional opinion maybe career to someone’s name . Just my opinion.. but it is what it is . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, One on top of two said: TV license £795.00 for 5 years OR FAC and SGC £111.00 for 5 years ( renewal) docs report say £65 average for 5 years total of £176 for the same period or £35.20 a year its hard to work out which one is the bargain A fair number of Shooters do make me chuckle , on my shoot days I will have people turn up in £90K Range Rover wearing £1000 of crap and a shotgun worth 3-10K , pay £300 for a day , then another £50 on a meal , all while bitching to me that the price of cartridges have gone up £10 per 1000 FAC holders are no different, we don’t think twice about spending hundreds of pounds on reloading crap that we seem to think we need . A doctors charge for service is just insignificant and lost within in the £££ we spend in five years 🤣 my village doctors charge me £55 to sign off my tickets and I’ll be honest and say I have no problem with it . After all we’re effectively asking someone to ( for want of another word ) vouch for us , I would certainly not be happy to put my name and professional opinion maybe career to someone’s name . Just my opinion.. hear, hear! Wholly agree, well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 22 hours ago, Popsbengo said: I expect you speak from a position of knowledge there? No? Possibly not, but as third party operations can provide the service for as little as 50 quid, as part of a presumably financially viable business, it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume the time involved in most cases (I'm probably not the only one who's seen a doctor once in the last x-decades!?) is not 'excessive'... I didn't personally have issue with paying whatever my GP wanted to charge me as long as it was done in a timely fashion - the fee didn't turn out to be relevant however as mine is a 'conscientious objector to the holding of firearms', and refused to engage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, GT3_richy said: Possibly not, but as third party operations can provide the service for as little as 50 quid, as part of a presumably financially viable business, it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume the time involved in most cases (I'm probably not the only one who's seen a doctor once in the last x-decades!?) is not 'excessive'... I didn't personally have issue with paying whatever my GP wanted to charge me as long as it was done in a timely fashion - the fee didn't turn out to be relevant however as mine is a 'conscientious objector to the holding of firearms', and refused to engage... Well I'd say it's difficult to know what the 'true cost' is to a GP practice however professional services are generally expensive - a solicitor for example. The BMA have issued guidance to GPs but some just don't want to assist in the process - they are supposed to offer an alternative GP from within the practice if possible. At least there are solutions available - interestingly though the applicant still needs to obtain their medical records and to provide them, I'm not sure if the summary available through online patient access is sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 I completed the MedCert application online, had a letter from the surgery asking for permission to provide MedCert with my history about a week later and then got my report from MedCert after about 3 weeks, all pretty painless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, GT3_richy said: I completed the MedCert application online, had a letter from the surgery asking for permission to provide MedCert with my history about a week later and then got my report from MedCert after about 3 weeks, all pretty painless. Good to know, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Not certain whether or not my GP surgery consists of conscientious objectors or just plain dozy….I gave them permission to send my records to Medcert and several weeks later a check with Medcert to review progress resulted in me finding they had yet to send them! They said they were very busy I told them to get some staff….Med cert however were very efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezmobile Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) On 8/18/2021 at 3:59 PM, Popsbengo said: I expect you speak from a position of knowledge there? No? Actually, yes. Sorry, I know, I should have learned by now to keep opinions to myself sometimes, but when you're currently hearing stories about G.P.'s surgeries having 'locked doors' or not seeing patients and packing them off to the local A&E instead, well........ Also, G.P.'s aren't always in a position to consider, or determine someones 'mental condition', that's not what they're necessarily trained for, but some still prescribe anti - depressants, sometimes to people who are just feeling a bit down. Sorry - That also comes from a position of knowledge! Edited August 21, 2021 by ezmobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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