ds1 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Forgive the indulgence, a mates new 9mm major Open toy. Going to be popping it’s cherry tomorrow It’s what happens when you spend about £5k (less Trijicon SRO) on a 2011 STI and the best Czech pistol smith ( Zendl )……no MIM ( made in Mexico) parts I told him it’s almost as pretty as a Glock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Thomas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Hi Derek, Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Different …. a bit of a steampunk look to it…..so, to my eye, only its mother could love it 😳. 😂😊😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Go away 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Matt, it’s surprising but the Steampunk (I like that name for it - now christened) is formula 1 of the IPSC world. By contrast my more traditional looking STI is useless for any gaming class, though has about 90 percent same basic parts (both are compensated 2011s). Same……but IPSC useless. A bit like looking at F Class vs FTR rifles I guess and the associated kit like front rest and joy-pods. If it helps John, mates been putting together an Apex press for the last couple of days so he can feed it 9mm major, apparently it’s a bit frustrating. Described the Dillon 1050 as a Toyota Yaris by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Insanely jealous ….thank you HM government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, gazzarM1 said: Insanely jealous ….thank you HM government go to Daves DS 1 range in Czech but its very addictive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just bought this one. Springfield Armory XD Match Elite Precision. The most accurate factory9mm's I've ever owned or shot ~Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Hi Andrew, I really like XDs I had one but sold it only because we do a lot of our training with Glocks or Cz p10c’s so I train with them. I appreciate the paradox though - here we go crazy for anything out of USA especially Texas ( STI / Staccato) but you are lovin the XDM from Croatia. I would highly recommend trying a Cz Shadow 2 also. It’s a boat anchor but we like them, it’s about the best IPSC /USPSA Optics Ready division pistol. Today suns out, guns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Oh how I miss shooting pistols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 A quickie from today the Open toy does shoot fast, it needs more powder though to really work the compensator and keep it flatter……..you then get into 38 Super Comp territory but going there. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tyQH4WiSxs0DdX3SeG6nZWV0zwU9V5eu/view?usp=drivesdk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Dellboy said: go to Daves DS 1 range in Czech but its very addictive Have every intention of going. Just need to get back mobile after imminent surgery.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 gazzarM1, just a thought, the accommodation and where I live is in a spar village, they do the usual wellness but also more intensive rehab stuff for people with injuries or after an operation. Possibly worth a thought of some shooting and a bit of wellness before or after - it’s very popular with Czechs. https://www.lazne-losiny.cz/en/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 10 hours ago, ds1 said: A quickie from today the Open toy does shoot fast, it needs more powder though to really work the compensator and keep it flatter……..you then get into 38 Super Comp territory but going there. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tyQH4WiSxs0DdX3SeG6nZWV0zwU9V5eu/view?usp=drivesdk Damn- that is fast!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Matt, IPSC is a good teacher of speed with accuracy. There are only really two areas where you can gain ( not loose) speed, movement and the draw…….reload but not so much in open class. Thomas is next level to me - he puts the effort and training in :). His draw to first shot yesterday averaged 1,16 second. It’s new kit. I know he’s usually about a consistent 1 second to first shot. I am about 1.3 seconds on a reasonable day. Shot splits are about 0.15 seconds. So just from the draw I am 2 shots (1 target down). The best here consistently average 0.8 seconds. There are no real gains to be made on the double taps. Once the skill sets are there to shoot accurately and fast the biggest differentiator is movement between target arrays. It is training but this is where me and IPSC part company - I want the shooting skill sets but with a more tactical/ practical approach to movement and cover. That’s what most of our clients want. Good thing about IPSC is there is a lot of available data, so you know what you should seek to achieve / improve in terms of times for draw, double tap, reload, basic drills - el prez etc. It’s much more effective than trying to copy what some bloke in your club does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Ronin said: Oh how I miss shooting pistols Would give up 90% of my long guns to be at it again with pistols 300 + rounds per week for 20+ years …. Mammoth part of my shooting life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, gazzarM1 said: Would give up 90% of my long guns to be at it again with pistols 300 + rounds per week for 20+ years …. Mammoth part of my shooting life Dillons were my friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Dave will surely pay you a visit or two lol and appreciate the info on the wellness centre…however will be in a wheel chair for 6 weeks …no flying for that period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hi Gary, you are very welcome to come whenever you like. We tend to update info on our fb page fairly often with more members vids and covid restrictions etc. I sympathise with being in a chair - I was on crutches for a long time after a knee synovectomy. At the moment the U.K. is on the Czech red list for travel ( political bullying) but I am hoping restrictions could be lifted by September. You are certainly very welcome to use my Cz Shadow 2 as a competition type pistol and try a slide ride red dot on it or irons. There are of course more normal Glocks, Czs and Sigs to use but the Shadow2 in a Double Alpha rig is a nice competition set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSG Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 10 hours ago, brown dog said: Damn- that is fast!! That is fast indeed,! we try to teach the draw now with a higher rotation point so the sights can be picked up earlier rather than swinging up. Red dots are the way to go of course. I too would be back to pistol shooting straight away. Still shoot at work but limited opportunity now for much practice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 TSG, a red dot adds complexity to the draw and the whole platform ( guessing Glock, plus the mos plate is not the best) you need about 2k rounds of practice before it’s going to be good and that’s from a normal standing position. It’s harder also using a level 3 retention holster like a Safariland. Out to 10 m I don’t see a speed or accuracy advantage to a red dot (I do and have used one for quite a few years). Draw, you get a more consistent draw taking the pistol by the fingers on the up stroke if you will, not traditional web of hand being forced down into beavertail. This creates an issue with level 3 retention holsters with a stirrup. A Safariland GLS level 2 works well though. Red dots only have one plain of focus ( target) so the draw can be more “bowling” but you don’t want to go “fishing” by over extension or locking out your elbows. Left hand should meet the pistol around sternum height and push out (allows fire from retention if needed) critical is getting the hands to meet close to the body, not away from the body. That’s what makes bowling a bad technique for the most part. Vid of Thomas. Pistol drawn by fingers / hand upwards (time not lost going down and then up). Left hand is waiting to meet pistol then bowls it out. It’s efficient as you don’t see the dot until it is over the target anyway but that’s why you need a lot of repetition. Meeting the pistol higher and pushing out ( as with iron sights) is slower but easier to find the dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 3, 2021 Report Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 9:57 AM, ds1 said: Hi Andrew, I really like XDs I had one but sold it only because we do a lot of our training with Glocks or Cz p10c’s so I train with them. I appreciate the paradox though - here we go crazy for anything out of USA especially Texas ( STI / Staccato) but you are lovin the XDM from Croatia. I would highly recommend trying a Cz Shadow 2 also. It’s a boat anchor but we like them, it’s about the best IPSC /USPSA Optics Ready division pistol. Today suns out, guns out. IT is odd, isn't it? I like the XD's, I have a XD Tactical 45ACP that outshoots my old Colt Gold Cup, and I have the XD 9mm Sub Compact for carrying -it is very accurate as well. Years back I got to test the XD Match in 45 ACP and 9mm. Both would shoot exceptionally well with the cheapest factory ammo. The $800 price tag was out of my league at the time. With this 9mm, I happened to be in the ranch supply store and spied this XD Match Elite Precision for just over $500 US. Two magazines of twenty one round capacity and a few different back straps, New in the Box. I couldn't pass it up. (I still think they mis priced it) comfortable and a superb trigger. My 135 grn handloads will shoot as well as I can hold. I have only put a coulpe of hundred rounds through it but I do love it. On a slightly different tack.... I purchased a Taurus TX 22 semi auto right after this XD. To say I am impressed with this 16 round Taurus is an understatement. I have dozens of handguns and this one is rapidly becoming my favorite rimfire auto. One of the most ergonomic grips I have experienced. Threaded for a suppressor from the factory, and 100% reliable with any numbers of ammunition. 17 ounce weight. Made in Taurus' plant in the US. If you ever get the chance to fire one, don't pass it by. ~Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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