terryh Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 UKV was invited the UK launch of the new AI competition rifle and chassis where both the rifle and chassis were displayed and available to shoot on the Cohbam range, Bisley. I will follow up this post with more detail but thought folks would be interested in a ‘snap shot’ or these products, first the AT-X rifle Proven AI action, fitted with their competition trigger which is a fully adjustable 2 stage and as tested very nice, crisp at, as a guess, about 1 1/2 pounds. Rifle comes in 6.5 Creedmoor and is fitted with AI’s now made in house barrel. The chassis has had input from shooters both sides of the pond with the most significant feature being the lowering of the barrel in the chassis, recoil is noticeably straight back, IMHO feels ‘less’ and certainly reduces (removes) muzzle climb between shots - off a tripod you remained on target. The actual form of the chassis is a bit more svelte compared to others out their , the pistol grip is AR fitting so adding for you favourite is simple. Butt end is fully adjustable in all planes. The top cover for the for-end comes in different lengths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Shooting the rifle at various distances was spot on, felt right and even though it was steels it grouped with the Hornady factory ammunition This is a nice rifle, take a bit to impress me these days but it just feels ‘right’. In base form it is lighter than some but you can add weights inside the forend or on the outside. Natural balance with no weights is just about perfect at just in front of the mag well - which is a barricade stop. A RRS ARCA rail runs the complete length of the forend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 The AT-X AICS had its world preview yesterday. the chassis is the same configuration and design features as the rifle but takes the existing 308 size AICS magazine system. initial inlet is for Rem700 clones, the AI actions ( if you want to un-glue your existing rifle) with Tikka T3 planned for future. There will be a 22rf version of the chassis which will have a 3” shorter forend should you wish. Dave Wylde demonstrated the ease of swapping from the demo REM 308 to a Bergara 22rf, which when swapped back did not change the POI of the 308. One small neat thing for me is the 2 action bolts are captive in the chassis, nice detail. Shooting the old 308 ( glittery brick 😉) in the AT-X chassis was very stable and the difference between the AI target trigger and the slightly upgraded Rem700. Again the rifle is neutral in recoil, straight back 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Couple more images: Bergara installed and depending on your taste you can see the option of a 3” shorted forend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Glad to see UKV - the premier accuracy forum in the UK were invited to the launch Thanks for posting Tel Look forward to having one in my mitts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ronin said: Glad to see UKV - the premier accuracy forum in the UK were invited to the launch Thanks for posting Tel 👍 Nice to see Team AI Shooters demonstrating the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, terryh said: Couple more images: That's my new poster-boy sorted 🤩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzarM1 Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Left Hand options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, gazzarM1 said: Left Hand options? Think they are down the road a bit? The chassis could probably take a LH action, just the mag cut out'd be on the wrong side - but hat's small beer IMHO T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Could anyone advise if these are standard with Small Diameter firing pin asking for a friend like 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy W Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Did they release prices as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 I don’t undeestand the comments about the barrel and action being lower in the chassis? The distance between the c/l of bore and the underside of the arca rail doesn’t look any less than other chassis’ provide. Or are they comparing it to older AI’s?? Does this really matter when you rest it on a big fat bag anyway? Care to explain please? Or is the shoulder/recoil pad just higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, lapua said: I don’t undeestand the comments about the barrel and action being lower in the chassis? The distance between the c/l of bore and the underside of the arca rail doesn’t look any less than other chassis’ provide. Or are they comparing it to older AI’s?? Does this really matter when you rest it on a big fat bag anyway? Care to explain please? Or is the shoulder/recoil pad just higher? Couldn’t agree more. If you want a ‘true’ low bore axis and ‘true’ straight back recoil impulse, buy a tube gun chassis. My AWSM (.300wm) is surprisingly soft shooting with a moddy. But my Defiance/Eliseo tube gun (.338NM) is not far off due to the very efficient brake and straight line recoil. Feels more like a ‘push’ then a thump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, lapua said: I don’t undeestand the comments about the barrel and action being lower in the chassis? The distance between the c/l of bore and the underside of the arca rail doesn’t look any less than other chassis’ provide. Or are they comparing it to older AI’s?? Does this really matter when you rest it on a big fat bag anyway? Care to explain please? Or is the shoulder/recoil pad just higher? It does sit quite a bit lower compared to standard. Most people who’ve shot it have noticed a positive difference. The take home message for most I would imagine would be.... would I sell my existing AI to get an AT-X. No. If I didn’t own one, but wanted one.... would I choose the AT-X over others, quite possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 The forend is definitely lower (base to C/L of barrel) than previous AI Models, that is the design point I believe Certainly interested in a AICS comp chassis for a BAT RS I have that i'm not sure would or would not fit (multi facet action but Rem 700 spacing) Im glad the designers have decided to retain the three position saftey over the AR15 style saftey that early design models showed on US based sites. I do wonder if the pistol grip is the best choice though, the straight designs (MDT) are far more comfortable for my pinkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy W Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Doesn't it say it will accept any AR15 grip? If so, the Magpul MOE K2 is almost vertical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Roy W said: Doesn't it say it will accept any AR15 grip? If so, the Magpul MOE K2 is almost vertical Designed to accept’AR’ grips so you can fit a vertical etc. If you should so wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Catch-22 said: Couldn’t agree more. If you want a ‘true’ low bore axis and ‘true’ straight back recoil impulse, buy a tube gun chassis. My AWSM (.300wm) is surprisingly soft shooting with a moddy. But my Defiance/Eliseo tube gun (.338NM) is not far off due to the very efficient brake and straight line recoil. Feels more like a ‘push’ then a thump. If you are shooting off a barricade or more so off tripods then this straight line recoil does make a difference as you are trying to spot your shots , this is aimed at the ‘PR’ market not square on scored back paper. As to ‘why not a tube gun?’ Cannot answer you on that only my observation that no one at any ‘PR’ matches I’ve been to ( pre money making and post) I’ve not seen a tube gun used and ( I hate pointing folks to the US) look at the ‘what the pros use’ do not think they feature there? Caveat the one comp where there was close to a tube was where David Tubb was using his T2000 and he lost to a ‘standard’ rifle. Tube rifles work, but perhaps not in all applications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHPP Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 If AI keep development going in this direction, they'll be making guns as good as DTA in maybe only twenty or thirty years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, AHPP said: If AI keep development going in this direction, they'll be making guns as good as DTA in maybe only twenty or thirty years. ???? Bit of an unnecessary comment as this rifle is aimed (no pun) at the ‘PR’ competition market 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, terryh said: Designed to accept’AR’ grips so you can fit a vertical etc. If you should so wish. Wasn't aware of this Tel Good call to make as multitude of designs available One step closer to a chassis then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds1 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 If the action sits lower in the stock recoil will be more direct, not necessarily less. The more muzzle flip the less recoil being directed back. It’s more of an issue in semi auto platforms, particularly open pistols. Looking at something with a very low bore axis like an Alien pistol your wrist takes a lot of hammer. A better compromise can be something with a higher bore and well designed compensator. The AI ATX looks to be like a lower cost option lacking some of the gucci bits like AI’s excellent folding stock and tool-less stock adjustments. A good argument can be made that these are not required for PRS etc. If it’s made from 6061- mehh, if it’s made from 7075 - it’s got my attention, if it were made from magnesium and carbon fibre- it would have my undivided attention....... (and be called a KRG Habu, I know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted May 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Dave Think folding stock will be an option. Tried the 6.5 Cm version which then had one of The Valkyrie MB’s fitted, very effective design with, by the looks of it, gas ‘defectors’ ( for want of a better term) in each chamber T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just some observations if anyone is interested. Regarding recoil, it is a noticeable improvement. I own and still use an AW in competition having done so for some time and have put 400 rounds through the new AT-X in testing and at the the launch. The perceived recoil with AT-X is the biggest difference, particularly shooting of barricades or with bipod, much less muzzle flip due to lower bore hight pivot and what you do feel is straight back, sight picture is easier to maintain and you can adjust the butt pad very high in shoulder which helps recoil mitigation. As terry said combined with a decent brake like the Valkyrie one fitted to the rifles at the launch it makes for a very shootable platform. Trigger is very good and can set it up how you like. Regarding the stock adjustability, I can’t see any need for quick stock adjustment on rifle like this and that’s why it’s not fitted, set and forget, I do not see any need to adjust it on the move. Modularity of AR15 type pistol grip is useful, personally I would swap out the pistol grip for a 90 degree one or Ergo grip. It’s an impressive package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 Thanks for that Dan - interesting to hear with regards the longer term use you have on the gun Seems to me that A I are on to a winner for steel plate comps with this as either a complete rifle or chassis Especially if it’s available as a “kit” with the bonding material and washers to swap to existing AI rifles for those that shoot primarily comps but want to utilise a new chassis over replacement rifle For those starting out or looking to buy in to a turn key system this could be the answer - though high end, it may be worth saving for - for those on a budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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