brave Echo niner Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Hi all, Following the 'Send it Shoot', while going through some reflections with another shooter, we both came to the conclusion that adding an Arca rail to my rifle would allow better versatility and that being able to interface my bipod with that rail so as to have quick adjustability of distance between rear support and bipod would be advantageous in stages such as shooting off tyres etc. A normal bipod mounted at usual length would be too far away from the rear support and would prohibit having the crucial two points of contact in this scenario. Hence I feel the need to use a bipod which will attach to Arca. I know that the MDT CYKE pod is the obvious choice, however I currently have a top-mounted Fortmeier which I love using, hence I don't really want to change! It is no issue with the set screw tightened to use it as an underslung bipod attached to a Picatinny rail, hence if I was to source an Arca swiss attachment with a Picatinny rail underslung it would allow the quick adjustment I desire without too much change to my kit. The only issue I am finding is sourcing one, I can only find one which is made by MPA and I cannot find anyone in the UK who stocks these. Does anyone know of any UK makers who do these or anyone in the UK who stocks them? I have attached a picture so people can see the sort I am meaning. Many thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 The RAT is a great bit of kit 👍 Alternatively you could look at RRS ARCA to Picatinny QD mount. I use these on the bottom of an ARCA rail to connect my Tier One EvO Tac pod. RRS QD ARCA mount:https://soar.reallyrightstuff.com/SC-LR RRS picatinny rail to ARCA QD mount: https://soar.reallyrightstuff.com/CA-R-50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarinePMI Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 The RRS kit is top notch. Their stuff is at the top of the heap, when it comes to fit, finish and quality. I can't recommend them enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3_richy Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 https://www.area419.com/product/arcalock-clamp/https://www.area419.com/product/picatinny-1913-rail-for-arcalock-clamps/ Can't fault A419s service, always ship stuff quickly - last bits I had I ordered 30th March - they were delivered 2nd April! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brave Echo niner Posted July 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Thanks for all the help guys, looks like both the RRS and the Area 419 is exactly what I'm looking for! I may go for the area 419 kit and bring over some other bits I've been looking at that they do. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 You may want to hang fire on the purchase I’ve one coming from Ulfhednar (Norway) Should be here this week so your welcome to examine when it arrives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 My pal who shoots PRL is making this very thing, along with a lot more related stuff, PM for his number. Its also made in the UK. I made one only friday, to fit an Atlas super cal to my ARCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brave Echo niner Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 5:42 AM, baldie said: My pal who shoots PRL is making this very thing, along with a lot more related stuff, PM for his number. Its also made in the UK. I made one only friday, to fit an Atlas super cal to my ARCA. Hi Dave, Looks good, will PM you now! Cheers, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 5:42 AM, baldie said: My pal who shoots PRL is making this very thing, along with a lot more related stuff, PM for his number. Its also made in the UK. I made one only friday, to fit an Atlas super cal to my ARCA. Which brand of Arca rail is that Dave? I have been looking for one which will fit the AI Keyslot mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 That looks like an Area419 ARCA rail that’s been cerakoted. It is ‘toothed’ to provide extra rigidity and stop the ARCA mount sliding back and forth too easily. https://www.area419.com/product/arcalock-univ14/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, Catch-22 said: "It is ‘toothed’ to provide extra rigidity" Eh? How do the 'teeth' make it more rigid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, John MH said: Eh? How do the 'teeth' make it more rigid? If you use the Area419 ARCA clamp, there is a section of the clamp that fits within the ‘toothed’ slots when you clamp down. So it still slides, ARCA as normal when loosened. When tightened, the ‘teeth’ engage, a bit like mini picatinny. The Area419 ARCA rail can be used with other ARCA mounts, thy just won’t engage the ‘teeth’ of the rail ‘tis all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Catch-22 said: If you use the Area419 ARCA clamp, there is a section of the clamp that fits within the ‘toothed’ slots when you clamp down. So it still slides, ARCA as normal when loosened. When tightened, the ‘teeth’ engage, a bit like mini picatinny. The Area419 ARCA rail can be used with other ARCA mounts, thy just won’t engage the ‘teeth’ of the rail ‘tis all. But how does it provide "extra rigidity" over a non-toothed rail? The Arca clamp does not slide up and down the rail (as long as its an Area 419 clamp with pins fitted) but the teeth don't make it more rigid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 That’s what I meant. Prevents clamp from sliding. To me that’s extra rigidity in the setup because when you slam your barricade stop against an obstacle, the stop/forend doesn’t then move about. Deepest, most sincere apologies if ‘rigid’ wasn’t the word you were looking for! Would ‘less slidey’ have been better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Less slidey is perfect. Do you often slam your barricade stop against an obstacle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Occasionally. I will also gently press, place, featherly touch, nestle, nudge, push, bump, caress etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 I have a Area 419 Arcalock rail on my T2k, I don't tend to use the Barricade stop but locking the bipod or bag in place is a good feature to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Catch-22 said: That looks like an Area419 ARCA rail that’s been cerakoted. It is ‘toothed’ to provide extra rigidity and stop the ARCA mount sliding back and forth too easily. https://www.area419.com/product/arcalock-univ14/ Thank you, that has to be it. But is it their Universal rail or their Keymod rail? Perhaps Dave will comment. One hears mixed stories about the compatibility between Keymod and Keyslot. The other alternative for an AI would be the Victor Company HR1 handguard, but that does look like a pricey option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Shuggy said: Thank you, that has to be it. But is it their Universal rail or their Keymod rail? Perhaps Dave will comment. One hears mixed stories about the compatibility between Keymod and Keyslot. The other alternative for an AI would be the Victor Company HR1 handguard, but that does look like a pricey option. I’m sorry, I don’t know. I don’t own an AIAX, so can’t say if the forend is Keymod like the sides are or not. Best you ask Baldie for what he thinks works best. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 44 minutes ago, Catch-22 said: I’m sorry, I don’t know. I don’t own an AIAX, so can’t say if the forend is Keymod like the sides are or not. Best you ask Baldie for what he thinks works best. 👍 Do you own an Area 419 Arcalock rail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Yes, the one on my rifle is an Area 419 model, i modified to fit, and painted. I now have access to some british made rails, for the AXMC, the tikka tac, and the AT . Pics later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapua Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Hammer rail is excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Hi, Im looking for something similar, but its for plinking with a rimfire, so I dont want to spend a fortune. Are there any cheaper alternatives about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashcroft Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 Have a look at MBE BALLISTIC SOLUTIONS https://www.mbeballisticsolutions.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_b Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 12:16 PM, ashcroft said: Have a look at MBE BALLISTIC SOLUTIONS https://www.mbeballisticsolutions.co.uk/ Odered one thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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