6.5 shooter Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Also devastating on your wallet re barrel burner Not so, how many foxes do you shoot a night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWShooter Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Not so, how many foxes do you shoot a night? Dozens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIC80 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 .220 Swift .204 Ruger .243 Win i use all the above, all do the job very well indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRD Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 22-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5 shooter Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Dozens I believe u but thousands wouldnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 204 223 22.250 220 swift 243 These calibres are all great for what you want. My personal favourite is the 204 because there is no recoil and I can see my hits through the scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckImp Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 .22-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'd say the .204 Ruger would be perfect up to fox size. Nice and flat between 100 and 200 yards. But if you're buying ready made ammo, I'd go for .223 Rem. Probably one of the top most versatile rounds, and most, if not all shops will have them in stock. If reloading and can get the brass, bullet heads, and the like, it would be .204 Ruger without a doubt. Chaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
force64 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 With factory ammo has to be 204 but i'll use my 20BR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hancock Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 416 Chey Tac - just to clock the response from Essex !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako 243 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 22.250 for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee w 118 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Also devastating on your wallet re barrel burner I will give you a shout wen I re barrelled the .22 should lastAt least a dozen rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin.243 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well if it were me I'd go for the trusty .243 with a 58 grain vmax I've handloaded mine and I easily get 3800 fps out of it so it will happily as flat as a 22-250 in real world terms. I was recently out foxing in what I didn't think was a very strong wind, shooting across a valley(around 250 yards) the bullet was blown 16". With the .204 and the 22-250 the wind drift would have been even worse so I'd stick the .243, especially as ammo is so readily avavible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisserge Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I am a great fan of the 22-250 when it comes to a factory chambering and ammo. The .204 / .223/ 22-250 and 243 are all great foxing rounds. Buy a rifle that you can find a reliable source of your chosen round. No point buying a rifle you can 140 rounds and then you are stuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
british bulldog Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I've owned .204, .223 6mmbr and .243 and have also used .17 rem and .222, but I have used a .22/250 for the last five years and I have to say it just does the job. I reload but even if I didn't most shops keep ammo which can't be said of exotics like .204 and .17 rem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ Varminter Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 22-250 everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeroy Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 22.250 great round but equally good is 243 more so if you hand load lighter bullets shoots flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhunter Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 .22/250 with nv scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee w 118 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 416 Chey Tac - just to clock the response from Essex !!! You have my vote from the midlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkjack Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 If you want an all rounder with a tone of factory ammo available I'd say .243 great on Foxes and if you later on want to shoot deer it would save the expense of bying another calibre if you want an out and out fox Rifle I'd go .22 250 that's what I shoot and Tuch wood I've never had a runner yet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white van man Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 .221 fireball reload cost the same as buying .17hmr but is flat shooting and blows em away. The rifle I always grab for foxing. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 223 for me. Shot 22-250 for a good few years and just thought that it was too much for foxes. Also the 22-250 I had (tikka m595) hadn't a patch on my 223 (blaser lrs2) for accuracy. The blaser has served me well on crows magpies pigeons and rabbits out to about 670 yards and is cheap as chips to load for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Another vote for the 223. I tried 204 for around five years and a lovely round for calm days. Iffy in the wind despite what some claim. No-one shoots 50gn bullets out of the 204 and the 40gn and less, wander about. For me trajectory is a given, the wind is the killer at range. I went back to the 223 fast twist for heavy bullets, and never looked back. IMHO the 243 is a bit much for fox, 40+gn powder burned and only a dead fox to show. However any current 6mm will soundly beat the 22's at range in wind. I'd be happy with a 22-250, probably the best of all worlds TBH Atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 SAAMI ammo: 200y zero,drift at 200y (at 100 it's about 1-1.4 " high,and 1" drift for all,to a decimal): 204 32 vmax 4.1 40 vmax 3.3 223 40vmax 5.0 50vmax 4.7 55vmax 4.6 60vmax 4.6 69SMK 4.0 77SMK 3.6 22250 40vmax 4.4 50vmax 4.0 55vmax 3.9 243 58vmax 3.9 All the energies are above 650ftlb at 200y,some considerably-seems adequate on field results. It's unlikely there is any consistent/effective field accuracy differences on fox between these cartridges. (and of course,any could be hot loaded...without significant ballistic changes for purpose,and to 200y). At 400y,still 200 zero,the drop/drift is(MV and remaining energy added-same loads as above): 204 40vmax@3900 13/15 526ftlb 223 40vmax@3800 18/23 330 50vmax@3300 21/22 380 69SMK @2850 25/18 531 22250 40vmax@4150 14/20 410 55vmax@3680 16/17 536 243 58vmax @3750 15/17 627 Actual field accuracy is not always found to be the same as ballistics,but they are a guide...:-) Go choose ! gbal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Interesting gbal. But unfortunatley reality sometimes goes astray from the sales pitch. I never saw the claimed velocity from factory ammunition in the 204. I couldn't achieve the book figures from Hornady either. The best I could do was 3600fps (25inch barrel) with a 40gn pill. This load was cratering primers and I tried all the powders on offer, nothing worked. Any faster was sticky case time and hammering the bolt open. It was however laserlike out to 250yds. The other interesting thing is my 223 tight neck, long throat and bushed firing pin seems to be better than your quoted figures. A 70gn VLD 200yds 10mph wind. = 2488fps 963ft lbs 3.1 inches drift 400yds 10mph wind. = 2065fps 663ft lbs 13.65 inches drift The wind from 9 o clock pushed the bullet a bit further to 3.3, I suspect due spin drift but generally those figures seem to work in the field for me. Of course non of that really matters if you miss, if you connect it just needs enough to do the job. 600ft lbs or 900ft lbs, Charlie won't care either way. I suppose the one thing I have learned over the years, it's all down to what you can get hold of ammo wise in the end. Wizzbang uber booming cannons are all very well, but not much cop without a ready supply of ammo wherever you happen to be. Atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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