brown dog Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Some of you may not have caught it, but last week we had to clip a thread relating to blank, that got a little bit out of hand. But it set some of us wondering: Which is the best across-the-course blank? Well, to hand we had some RG, some IMI and some DAG - all 5.56mm. Initial results are here (100m, overcast, blustery fishtailing wind), IMI top left, RG centre, DAG bottom left: We'd be very interested to learn what sort of results others are getting with blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The DAG blanks are always temperamental , especially in the experimental chamber you're running, so as expected, they are the poorer sample. The IMI and RG, well they are pretty level pegging. Have you considered using some Black Hills blanks, they really set the standard,. Another consideration would be the Israeli fare that Mossad use, these boys really know their stuff, really the pigs whistle of ammo. Excellent test results. How do they compare at longer range compared to 17 HMR blanks on deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brown dog Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The DAG blanks are always temperamental , especially in the experimental chamber your running, so as expected, they are the poorer sample. The IMI and RG, well they are pretty level pegging. Have you considered using some Black Hills blanks, they really set the standard,. Another consideration would be the Israeli fare that Mossad use, these boys really know their stuff, really the pigs whistle of ammo. Excellent teretts results. How do they compare at longer range compared to 17 HMR blanks on deer? Aaaagh! 1000 apologies, I posted the target upside down. Corrected here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Handloading is the only way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Handloading is the only way to go. Nice. What load? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Rather than waste your blanks shooting pointless groups, you'd be better off converting them into useable .222 brass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 25.2 grains of Hodgdon Vapour behind a 26" air slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The beauty of blanks is you can run a shorter throat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 How do they compare at longer range compared to 17 HMR blanks on deer? Nothing field-conclusive yet. However, as a start point, ballistic gel gave us this: 17 HMR blank top. RG blank bottom. I think you'd have to draw your own conclusions: The beauty of blanks is you can run a shorter throat Very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsm Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Which mod were you using Matt and did it tighten your blank group ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 25.2 grains of Hodgdon Vapour behind a 26" air slug. The old favourite. Good to see people still getting great results with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 People talk down shotgun blanks but I've found if you angle the trap towards a wall or paved ground then they are 100% effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Variation in point of impact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Definitely to much time on your hands lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Definitely to much time on your hands lol No, I gave up on them as the barrel break in was a nightmare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSG Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I use UTM silent blank in 5.56 and 9mm. Cuts down the noise considerably and the targets last forever. Of course no one knows where the shots are coming from but it's better than shouting 'bang' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 How do they perform with wet moderators, by that I mean with a moderator totally immersed in a liquid. Sound attenuation may be better but given the viscosity of any fluid that is thicker than air the quoted BCs for blanks may not be valid in any of the reloading manuals so calculating drops and windage required may result in unexplained misses on targets across all ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I use UTM silent blank in 5.56 and 9mm. Cuts down the noise considerably and the targets last forever. I realise it will vary with target material, but what sort of target life are you getting with silent blank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 None of that namby-pamby 5.56 minor calibre stuff - major calibre is the way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Matt, Detail please? What twist are you running? I'm also having trouble seeing the shot count per group in the pictures - or is it my eyes! Less than 5 rounds does not prove anything!! Re. target life, think Tiff's said the RG stuff can only be used at 300yards plus at his place? MrCetrezine - try the new Vit SBD powder, I've found it does what it says on the tin ! T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 ive just ordered 20 bartlein barrel blanks in various profiles im guessing i can use these a"as is " as they are already chambered in a blank calibre i think they come as standard they will be the straight walled "6mm pilot" although it could well be the improved version "6.5mm" time they get here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Been sent this by a pal who's spent a lot of time looking for the best 7.62 blank for stalking use - both in terms of accuracy and terminal ballistics. He settled on RG. He's sent me a pic of a buck taken shortly after a nice stalk and high heart shot at 75m with RG 7.62 blank: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSG Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 In my 'top of the wallbars go' days a fireman turned up with his wife. He was moving about a bit carefully and when questioned said' I am firing blanks now. Just had a vasectomy' I enquiried of his wife about her perception of the firing blanks situation and was surprised by a reply of' oh it's ok I suppose but the spunk does not spurt out as much as it used to' never saw him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Hmmmm....sounds more like a prostectomy. For most members of the Blank Club,with tie, weight may be slighty reduced but trajectory improves,as Quick Load predicts.Safe shooting is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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