t.t Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 ive a dilemma ive a .223 tika 595 and a howa.308, I fancy a 6.5x47 a rifle for long range vermin fox and odd roe. now do i sell what i have and get a 6.5x47 "a man with only 1 rifle knows how to use it" , rebarrel my 308 and keep my 223 for fox & vermin what are the costs involved etc ect? I would like a 26" 1in8 twist fluted medium stainless barrel and tactial stock my head is battered with crawling the net for info etcetc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I suppose it depends how much money you can invest in a new boom stick. I would sell both and get the 6.5x47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.t Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 if i sold both rifles id sell a nightforce scope too, so got not to bad a budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejohn Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I think that should be your plan then,and get a nice custom jobby that will last you a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 NO , I would not go 6.5x47mm , for no other reason , than as this case uses a small rifle primer , what that means is for should not run it in a std 308 bolt head which is really designed for the large rifle primer , you should have bolt with a smaller firing pin hole , ie a bushed nstd 308 bolt , or if a custom action , then a special small sized firing pin hole & firing pin . Simplier solution , is just run a 260 with lapua brass , as this does NOT need the smaller dia firing pin & hole etc , due to the case using a large rifle primer . Later Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Contraversial I know but if I were to be a one rifle man it would have to be .243 (maybe the slr variant cos the shoulder looks better ) The thing that lets the .243 down is factory rifles with a 1-10" Twist which wont stabalise the 105 grainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 NO , I would not go 6.5x47mm , for no other reason , than as this case uses a small rifle primer , what that means is for should not run it in a std 308 bolt head which is really designed for the large rifle primer , you should have bolt with a smaller firing pin hole , ie a bushed nstd 308 bolt , or if a custom action , then a special small sized firing pin hole & firing pin . Simplier solution , is just run a 260 with lapua brass , as this does NOT need the smaller dia firing pin & hole etc , due to the case using a large rifle primer . Later Chris plus one on this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 t.t. Personnally I'd go for the 6.5x47 as it has been for me and a couple of good friends a very accurate cartridge. I've heard of the primer hole problem but have never experianced it in my rifle (Surgeon action) or seen in in my frineds (stock Tikka ex 308). But then again I've not pushed the 47 case at all but still achiving quite usable velocities (123g@2900+ and 139g@2800+). Perhaps I'm just lucky in my selection of primers and powder Re. the .243. If you put a 1:7.5 twist on you open up use of the 115 DTAC's which can be pushed to good velicity and still retain sensible barrel life and are very effective. 30% less elevation required compared to the 308. This gives you a nice range round but will still work with the 105g bullets for other work. Brgds Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 If you decide to part with the .223/Tikka 595 can I have first dibs please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 NO , I would not go 6.5x47mm , for no other reason , than as this case uses a small rifle primer , what that means is for should not run it in a std 308 bolt head which is really designed for the large rifle primer , you should have bolt with a smaller firing pin hole , ie a bushed nstd 308 bolt , or if a custom action , then a special small sized firing pin hole & firing pin . Simplier solution , is just run a 260 with lapua brass , as this does NOT need the smaller dia firing pin & hole etc , due to the case using a large rifle primer . Later Chris I'm with Chris on the 260... my FAVE calibre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finman Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I'm with Chris on the 260... my FAVE calibre. What's wrong with the 6.5x55?? more rifles around, equally accurate, can handle up to 140gn (some may even argue 156gn) and loading data galore... Finman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 What's wrong with the 6.5x55?? more rifles around, equally accurate, can handle up to 140gn (some may even argue 156gn) and loading data galore... Finman nothing, it is a splendid calibre its just why have the long action for the same performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.t Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 ive had a 6.5x55 but sold it some times i wish i hadnt Still want a 6.5x47 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Personally I would keep the 223 and get rid of the Howa. Build a 6.5x47 or 260, bith will deal with any UK species. Better ballistically than the 308 The 260 has the edge as it will handle 130 + grainers. Ive had personal input with many 6.5x47's, built on custom and factory actions, the only one that had any issues with pressure (firing pin) was a Stiller - which was resolved by changing primer brand. Yes, you would be better (in an ideal world) to have a small diameter pin if you choose the "47", but 99% of the time it isnt an issue unless you start to push velocities. Unless there is a decent trigger available for the Howa, I wouldnt build it on that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgobang88 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hi, Keep the .223 and use the Howa as a basis for a .260 Rem. Virtually identical performance to the 6.5x47, works through your existing action without any problems, top quality components available. Will your local Licensing Dept. condition a 6.5/.260 for vermin? This could effect your choices. The Howa could be used for anything from a basic conversion to a full blown custom job. The triggers can be tuned to a very crisp sub 2,1/2 pound pull, Cheers Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tackb Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 sell em both and build a nice 260 with a good scope and then just get on with shooting stuff .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyH Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 ...ive a .223 tika 595 and a howa.308... do i sell what i have and get a 6.5x47 "a man with only 1 rifle knows how to use it", rebarrel my 308 and keep my 223 for fox & vermin... I would like a 26" 1in8 twist fluted medium stainless barrel and tactial stock... You have people suggesting these comparatively big-bore (deer cartridge) rifles as a one size fits all solution but I think that's mistaken. Horses for courses: .223 is a very good chambering in a varmint rifle, possibly the most commonly used in the world by varmint hunters. I'm not sure if you're "varmint hunting" as such, or just shoot the occasional pest, but standard-twist rifles in .223 will handle bullets from 40gr to 55gr perfectly well for your varmint/pest purposes, with great accuracy and good economy. I'd keep your Tikka and think about re-barrelling the .308 if you really want a flatter shooting, more economical deer rifle, in any of the 6mm-6.5mm chambering suggested. Not sure whether you want that fast-twist long barrel for the deer rifle or for varminting, though it implies long-distance shooting from prone so perhaps the former, as does the tactical stock. I personally don't see the point of "tactical stocks" unless one is in the SAS or a SWAT team but each to his own. Hey, if you forgo the tactical stock (these seem to be horribly expensive) you could probably afford to re-barrel both your rifles... Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir-slots-alot Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Personally - I would not get rid of the 223. For most general shooting - including shortish range varminting and foxing , the 223 is ideal. There a lot to be said for using a mild mannered calibre that allows you to watch the impact of your shot. ATB Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22/250 foxer Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 yes keep the 223 and rebarrel the 308 or sell it and look out for a 6.5x47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggersqueezer Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 go down the custom barrel route as opposed to factory then top it off with that lovely night force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I also think you should keep the 223. I would then rebarrel the 308 to a 6.5x47 and stick on a bellandcarlson varmint tactical stock and a riflebasix trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.t Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 decided to keep the 223 i love it to bits shot loads of stuff with it from crows rabbits foxes even roe (scotland)esp with it being a 595 stainless like rocking horse $hit to get now 6.5x47 after the new year me thinks and sell my howa. Any offers guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Rebarrelling a howa ? Sell it and start with something worth rebarrelling.There are plenty of donor 595,s etc out there. S/h remmys, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Exactly , whats wrong with the Howa's , other than weight . All the ones I have handed , have much smoother actions than Rem700s , they do have much less , after market gear made for them , and gunsmiths hate them as the barrels can be on tight . Opps , yeap , the bolts are one piece instead of the cheap way 3 piece silver soldiered bolts of the Rems . I think , other than the scope dovetails & fixed ejector , they are a lot like the Old model Sako actions in their design . Later Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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