brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Well, this is a mix between a range report and a rifle write-up: At Bisley today and managed to meet up for a pop at McQueens with Ewen (DTA Eur) Ian (Orka A) Ian (Elwood) and Dave (6mmBR); also had a chance to say hello to Alan (Gunsgobang). Shooting was pretty awesome across the board; between us we had two 50.10s, three 50.9s and one 50.6 This was the first ever run-out for my new and virgin 6.5x47. (Put together for me by Andy M (Ronin) on a l/h stainless T3, with a lothar palma weight tube, anglo muzzle brake (about which more another time-awesome) and a bunch of other bits and bobs. Received it on Tuesday; and shot it today for the first time.) Work-up for the rifle was extensive and exhausting. I shan’t describe it in detail, it’s far too complicated. Briefly though: Ewen, Ian and I made up 20 rounds in the back of Ewens 4x4 at the back of century. (I think Elwood may actually have been crying as he watched ) Barrel break in was again extensive: I followed a rigid bolt cycling regimen as I zeroed with 3 shots at 500yds. The next 6 shots provided two 0.3MOA groups at the same distance. With break-in complete; we returned to the 4x4, loaded another 30 rds and then moved to the 300yd McQueen competition. On my first bash with it, it shot a 50 10V (HPS). On the mandatory tie-break re-shoot it then shot a 50 6V. That it shot so well is chiefly a testament to my detailed & careful preparation. (oh, and did I mention Andy put the rifle together?) Andy –it’s bloody amazing! Thank you. (and thanks to my load development team!) Great day. Great to see you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 You really should have said more about the elaborate seating depth process Matt. Seat a bullet, hold it up to the sky and say "yeah looks about right" It was good to meet up, with some grade A pi$$ taking. More's the pity it was so painfully slow to shoot the McQueens as I really would have liked to have had a go with the Desert tactical arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 We all know about Brown Dogs reloading, at least the brass fit the chamber this time I must say I am rather taken with the palma profile barrel. Will it be a switch barrel with the old .308 barrel? Ronin certainly screws together an accurate rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Please tell me that you used a lee hand loader as well. Certainly sounds like a shooter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Akinse Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 What a day, almost kicked off the 20m zero range as they thought I was taking the p*$$ cos I shot the sighters in the McQueens and couldn't hit a barn door with a handful o' peas....... Sandbbags...AAAArrrrggh!!! and went to check my zero. I was just a little high... Finally succombed to the great generousity displayed by Ewan to use his DTA on the second Mcqueens attempt. OH......MY......GOD!!! what a piece of kit had a great time and brought home the lowest but still in the high 40's score of team P*$$ Take. Unlike the rest, I had the short straw of escorting Brown Dog [He of the VERY dodgy & agricultural homeload parish of lucky gits] home and everytime we went over a bump all I heard was.... "my new rifles great" or "I'm really pleased with my rifle"... etc etc To the rest of the gang, thanks for a cracking day, superb banter, good times and I learned loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offroad Gary Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 .3 moa at 500y with no load deveopment!!! i think i want one - might make a good stalking rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Will it be a switch barrel with the old .308 barrel? That's the plan; or that was the plan - I don't think I'd dare unscrew this tube. Please tell me that you used a lee hand loader as well. Yup (albeit with a forster benchrest seater die in it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 It was great to catch up today. A good bit of shooting and the usual banter, Hope to catch up soon. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 It was great to catch up today. A good bit of shooting and the usual banter, Hope to catch up soon. Dave It'd be remiss of me to fail to point out that it was Dave who shot a 50 10V followed by a 50 9V. Superb shooting Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 What size was the V Bull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 What size was the V Bull? You not shot McQueens at Bisley John?! We were really lucky today, because the absolutely cast-in-stone what-they-always-use standard-for the last-bunch-of-years politically correct A4 size NRA Huns's Head was replaced for us (and only us out of the entire multi-week Imperial meeting) with a giant 4ft by 4ft enlargement of the NRA standard target. Not only that, they let us walk forward and, unlike the rest of the Imperial meeting, shoot it at 50m -but still say it was 300yds. We really lucked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Yes, but I didn't think the Fig 14 had a V-Bull and I'm assuming you were shooting at 14s and not the PC NRA version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Well done Matt. Load development was 37,5g RL15, perhaps? It should shoot a little, glad you were the one to do the "extensive load dev and range testing",, I didnt feel it necessary ... Just make sure all the brass you cycle through it is clean, its built to BR tolerances,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Is this on the 300 yards castles on century Matt ? I didn,t realise they had started to use the 200 yards [ v-bull ] target on there ? Thought they still used the 100mm "kill" on the politically correct target ? No matter, sounds like you guys had a great time. Looks like a very accurate gun.......but ###### its ugly...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Forget I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Is this on the 300 yards castles on century Matt ? I didn,t realise they had started to use the 200 yards [ v-bull ] target on there ? Thought they still used the 100mm "kill" on the politically correct target ? Yes, the 300yd castles. Tgt nuances; not a clue! I've only ever seen 1 pc huns head target type at bisley -looked the same to my untutored eye as what I shot at the phoenix in 2007 (.........did I ever mention that? ) . John, I appear to have mistaken an innocent question for sour-grapes, I apologise. Looking at last year's scores, Dave has shot a potentially winning score. Last year the Imperial mcqueens was won after ashoot off between two shooters who both scored 50.10 and a 50.10. Hope that puts the quality of Dave's 50 10V and 50 9V into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Is this at 2 , or 300 yards ? To shoot a 50.10 with the one inch "v" would be absolutely astounding,at 300 yards, as its only been done once at 200 yards, by some jammy, shandy drinking southern, flip-flop wearing bummer before now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I,ve a feeling that when shot at 300 yards, the head scores 5 and the 100 mil circle is the "v" ? Rob hunter did it once a couple of years back. Putting 10 rounds inside the circle at 300 yards is no mean feat...i,ve only ever managed it once myself at diggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 To shoot a 50.10 with the one inch "v" would be absolutely astounding,at 300 yards, as its only been done once at 200 yards, by some jammy, shandy drinking southern, flip-flop wearing bummer before now...... I didn't think I'd mentioned it :lol: I wonder how many people have shot 50 10V at the Phoenix and 50 10V at the Imperial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Not many Matey.....but of course, this post is meaningless without pictures...... Seriously, i would love to know whether the target had the inch "V" or whether it was the big circle. It doesn,t matter, either is a great achievement, and very well done. Did you shoot the "T" at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Not many Matey.....but of course, this post is meaningless without pictures...... Seriously, i would love to know whether the target had the inch "V" or whether it was the big circle. It doesn,t matter, either is a great achievement, and very well done. Thanks, but don't forget Dave's score was was higher - and as a McQueens nutter, I'm sure you know the answer on the v-bull question; I just know the score.....it'll all be in the results pdfs when they do them Did you shoot the "T" at all ? Umm yes. Different story. Not good. Rifle and scope issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 The V bull is roughly a 3 inch diameter, the 5 bull is roughly about 5 inches. The little one inch circle in the middle is there for settling tied scores? Or something like that. What actually makes Dave's score even better is the fact that this was only the third and fourth time he has ever shot the McQueens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deserttech Europe Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 hi folks the target definitly has the 1" circle on it, however i have no idea how it was scored. I think it must be the bigger circle though. even this is good shooting at 300 Ewen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Hopefully I will have a chance with my 50 10v and tie break shoot of 50 9v as I had entered the target rifle class. I shot it with my .308 match rifle and I think the inner circle was the v bull not the broken line 1" circle as Ian says I think this is a tie breaker?. Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I think I have the V-Bull answer clear in my head now. The target used is the NRA PC Version of the Fig14. At 300 yards the Bull (5 Ring) is 150mm in diameter, the V-Bull is 100mm in diameter, when they are forced into a Tie Shoot off then the inner 25mm ring may be used. Good shooting anyway from all those mentioned above. The correct but un PC Fig 14 has a 100mm 5 ring but no V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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