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Well, I don't think it's an instead of, it's an as well as, all my brass is labeled. For me it's simple, my FEO said that if I'm going to reload, then he expects to see a reloading log at renewal. This way, I can email it all off to him and I can correlate the components purchased to the rounds loaded. It's simple and works for me to record everything but it's also only an option. I'm trying to show what can be achieved at no extra cost from a simple spreadsheet. Paper logs are equally good, it also depends on what you carry, I do know some people who don't have a smartphone or don't carry it everywhere. Inexplicable I know, but in their case, this method would be useless.

I use Google Sheets, free for personal use. Once you have created your spreadsheet, use tabs to keep track of different things. Then click on 'Extensions' and then 'Appsheet', this lets you create a small app, also free for personal use, that you can put on your phone or tablet. Each tab will be a different table in the app, you can link, do calculations, all the normal spreadsheet stuff and it appears on your phone. You can do all this with no programming knowledge at all but you do need to be able to set up a spreadsheet. I have one to track my shooting and reloading, if you update the sheet, it automatically updates your app, if you update the app on your phone, it automatically updates the sheet, best of all worlds. This is a first for me, I love writing, I collect fountain pens and usually use notebooks but the one thing I always have on me is my phone. (What really drove me to it was I hate writing in Biro and it was not practical to carry a fountain pen and notebook on every shoot). It also does the calculations for me, so ammo stock is calculated from (ammo bought + reloaded) - (ammo used). Cost of reloading is calculated from the cost of components etc.. I have bullet drop tables on there as well and am in the process of adding a wind effect calculator. I can either enter the information once I am home, or while I am out on my phone. What is useful is when I wanted my ammo limits varied, I could send the FEO the sheets showing usage as evidence, so I had no problem getting the variation. Home page tracks guns I have used You can then go in for further details Similarly, I keep track of my ammo Again with further details So, I can keep track of how much ammo I have on hand, how much is reloaded etc.. I also do components again with details And have a reloading log with details Then I put other stuff in the menu Like drop tables for my common ammo

I looked at the Dolphin stock for a shade under £800 I think. I decided to go with a Form stock to replace my AT-One stock for push button adjustability, I share my rifle with my kid. I'm not so worried about rigidity on a rimfire but I was shooting with a chap who had a Dolphin stock on his .308 last weekend and they are excellent stocks, so there may be one in my future. I'm using the 20" factory barrel. 19MIL with a 20MOA rail would give me ((19/2)+5.8)=15.4Mil, just not quite enough.

I've only put 430 rounds down the factory barrel of the 457, a mix of SK Standard + and SK Rifle Match. So far, so good, astonishing accuracy with one hole groups at 25yds, ragged hole at 50 yds and opening up a bit to a touching group at 100yds. I have 12 ammo types to try out with it, Eley target brands, SK brands and Lapua Center-X. Got RWS rifle match as well (but I find RWS ammo dirty so I do avoid it) and some CCI standard. Used a mod from day 1. If I was getting a Dolphin built for 2k, I would definitely go for the Lilja barrel but while I will change my stock, I don't see any reason to change the barrel at this stage, I am very happy with it. I'm planning to join the long range rimfire club (https://sites.google.com/site/thelongrangerimfireclub/), it's only £10 and also enter the smallbore long range match (https://online.nra.org.uk/sblr-2022), but that's going to depend on getting a scope that will give me 55 MOA of adjustment, or figuring out my aiming marks. The Hawke has 16MRAD in total, I need 16.1 to go from 25yds to 300yds, so even with a 20MOA rail, that still leaves me 2MRAD short, so holding over by 2 mil should do it.

I've got the 457 in the Boyds AT-One stock. I can't tell you which scope to get but I can tell you which one to avoid, the Athlon Argos gets very milky towards the top end and doesn't do the rifle justice. The Hawke Sidewinder works well with it but I am on the lookout for something to match the 457 and make the most of its accuracy, I don't think the Hawke is quite it. I am reluctant to spend more on the scope than the gun, that's what I used to do in my hunting days and I've never seen the need to do that for target, but equally, I can't work my way through every scope out there on the way up, so may have to bite the bullet and just go for known top quality scope.

Might I suggest GRT, it's free and you can model away to your heart's content, though usual warning, start small and work up. Use GRT to give you an idea and then confirm with manufacturers data that you are considering sensible loads. GRT is not a substitute for properly working up loads from a minimum safe value. Anything below is for the purposes of entertainment only and should not be used as load data. When I'm playing with GRT, I tend to look for a 100% propellant burn and an efficiency over 30%, then I sort the results by pressure, with the lowest first. Anyway GRT does have the 129gr Accubond in its database, though I cannot find H380 For N160 - might leave a lot of residue as it appears to only burn 90% of the propellant, the other two are a 100% burn With N150, I've made the max load 39gr as I was getting overpressure warnings with 40gr IMR 4166, again dropped the max load because of pressure warnings Running a search to give a MV of 2,700 ft/s, with burn characteristics within 5% of N150 and constraining it to 100% burnt propellant, you can see N150 and IMR4166 are very close together. I've sorted by peak pressure starting with the smallest, as that's the way I tend to view the list.

We all have out priorities and you don't need to be rich to shoot at Silverstone, £1k for a gun and £550 for membership, then it's just ammo and the £10 a time entry fee for the competitions. I don't think this is a rich vs poor issue, if it something you really want to do, well then Silverstone provides the venue and opportunity. Beats my usual weekend, eight people to one lane at Bisley and hanging about for your turn while the bloke who is supposed to be shooting is digging around his bag for his lucky turnip or whatever. There are some people who will use the facility and a lot who will not, it's just nice to have the choice.

Silverstone are heavily into their mini-rifle competitions, and they've signed up to run US NRL 22 competitions in the UK. They have a certain clientele who are probably not well served by traditional clubs and, from what I hear, it's very well run. It would be great for .22 and load development on full bore as well as LBP and potentially Section 1 shotgun. I think their market is towards the more dynamic shooting styles, if you want to lie in the grass squinting at a target 600-1,000yds away (as I do), then Bisley is your place. If you can shoot during the week, and you want to join in the dynamic fun, then the Silver at £550 all in for a whole year sounds OK.

Read this and the best of luck! https://www.gunmart.net/shooting-advice/where-to-shoot/shooting-range/silverstone-shooting-centre

I just got an alarm fitted by a local company, paid extra for the GPRS modem, so it's not dependant on WiFi. Alerts me, the Mrs and the neighbours by SMS if it goes off. I can let the neighbours in remotely with an electronic front door lock. Lock cost me about £180, alarm was £1k fitted with both internal and perimeter sensors (we have cats). FEO seemed happy, no request for central monitoring, though that is available for an extra couple of hundred a year and if it was an issue, I would pay it. Also a separate Ring doorbell. Oddly, what he seemed happiest about is the cabinet is inside a built in locked wardrobe, that seemed to count for more than the alarm.

As a probationary member under supervision, you can shoot with your club at Bisley up to 600yds, you can't shoot at any longer distances until you are a full member. Once you are full member with either iron sights or telescopic sights on your SCC, then the world is your lobster and you can shoot 1,000yds with the NRA shooting club pretty much twice every month, assuming you are an NRA member. Otherwise, its whatever your club organises. Bisley advertise 1,200 yd practice days which you can sign up for as a member but these are heavily subscribed. If you know someone at one of the Bisley Clubs, you might get onto a guest day at up to 600yds, my clubs last but one guest day included 600yds but the last one was max 300yds. For this, you normally have to be invited by a member and they supervise/load for you one to one. Clubs are allowed 12 guest days a year, (though the NRA are allowed 40), so if you know someone, this might be the easiest way to go to 600yds. FWIW, I found going 300yds>>600yds>900yds fairly straightforward and something I could manage myself. Stepping up to 1,000yds was harder and I did need some help/coaching first time out.

Perhaps a mildly annoyed rhino, £25 for one discipline, £35 for 2 and £45 for three or more, not bad for a 4 year sign-off! If you pop along to their shooting club three times, you get it for nothing.

I believe I am said forum member and if anyone wants to know more about costs, please PM me and I will be as honest as I can be. There is a good atmosphere, the chap who usually acts as RCO is a diamond, strict on safety but willing to help and teach anything. The people who turn up regularly are a good bunch as well. It's probably the least elitist and most approachable club at Bisley and I have not found a better way to take advantage of the facilities at the NSC.

I'm Milton Keynes and I shoot down at Bisley, it's probably a similar distance for you. I try and get down twice a month for a two hour morning session, then lunch and then a two hour afternoon session. Usually takes me about 75mins in the morning to get there and about 2 hours back. I joined the OSMSC, they shoot pretty much every weekend, and during a month, they will have sessions for everything from 50yds .22/gallery, through 100yds/200yds/300yds/600yds to 1000yds and McQueens. You would almost certainly have to do a 3 month probation but the only restriction there is you cannot shoot beyond 600yds. You can use club guns and ammo for any discipline where you need to, there is a club house and they do lunch on shooting days. Anyway, I think it's the easiest way to shoot at Bisley, friendly enough, and no BS. PM me if you want to know what it costs and I can tell you what the programme is for the next few weeks and put you in touch.

Reading all this made me want one. Ordered off ebay £89.57 including shipping and customs duty/VAT. Lot of other places are saying discontinued and most are saying out of stock.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Weatherflow-Weathermeter-Smart-Phone-Meter/dp/B011WT29HO Twice the price!

NRA Rules https://nra.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Bible-2020-Complete.pdf NSRA Rules https://www.nsra.co.uk/index.php/home/reference/rules And different clubs can have their own variations on the rules, or just different rules completely!

As everyone is saying, there are a lot of rules from different organisations. Just as an example, for .22 benchrest in the NSRA, front rest has to be flat with no padding, no rear rest, left hand can support but not grip the rifle, which must be in the shoulder. The other BR organisations allow any front rest and a rear bag and you can do what you like with your supporting hand. Long distance .22 from the NRA, you can have a front rest but the rifle cannot rest on it, your hand can rest on it and then the rifle can rest on your hand. F/TR calibre .223 or .308 only and a weight limit but ok with front bipod and rear bag. F/Open anything you like up to 8mm calibre. Vintage service rifle competitions, rifle must be as issued back in whenever, civilian service rifle, typically four classes, historic, iron, service optics, practical optics. Let us know what you most fancy doing and we can help you with the rules, otherwise I'm afraid its a bit of a how long is a piece of string question. I could use a 7.62 in vintage service rifle competition, as a target rifle, for McQueens castle sniper targets or long range scoped, all would have different rules.

Dude, you need to find somewhere else to buy your ammo!! 50k 9mm from the NRA armoury at Bisley would be £13.5k, if reloading about half that (500 lead bullets from Henry Krank are £38.90 and you will need about 30lbs of powder, so that's about £1,400). Still a lot but £500 a month is manageable assuming you don't drink, own a car or socialise in any way.

Funny you should say that. Was trying to get my 17 year old son into it, he had a go but said it wasn't anything like the 'real thing' on Call of Duty. Had more luck with my daughter but it scares me the way she completely zones out and focuses on mechanically sending pellet after pellet down range. She just becomes a shooting machine and wo betide me if I don't have her next mag ready on time!

Maybe it's like the household cavalry, I've heard they prefer non-riders, no bad habits to break. For most experienced shots pointing a gun at someone wouldn't come naturally, perhaps better to start with someone who doesn't know any better?

Agreed, once you routinely arm the police, then you effectively arm the criminals who will need to keep up, which will lead to more restrictive firearms legislation for the rest of us. Do what the Japanese do, deploy a futon, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-pacific-38534288. You could just imagine it, 'here Ted, looks a bit dicey, I think we'd better deploy the futon from the back of the panda', ' right 'ho Bert, I'll just radio through to control for a futon risk assessment and the futon deployment authority, you start on the paperwork'.

I have to say, some of this makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. I'm no police fanboy, one of my best friends will tell stories about CID corruption that would make your toes curl, but in our civilian society with a civilian police force, we employ people and tell them their job is to run towards danger when everyone else is running away. Armed police are answerable in a unique and detailed way, they know any decision, even made in good faith, may leave them hung out to dry, at the mercy of the press and public, yet they still choose to do the job. From the coroners court it seems like they shot him twice and then when he didn't keep still and sat up, they received radio authorisation for a critical shot from a firearms supervisor. I'm sure they were in fear for their own lives as well as those of people around them and 2 shots or 20, they did the job and kept shooting until he stopped moving. I can tell you with absolute certainty that in the same situation, armed with whatever you wanted to give me, I would have frozen and crapped my pants. When I look at the way they dealt with the murderers of Fusilier Lee Rigby, the London Bridge attack where four unarmed police officers were wounded trying to protect the public and this attack, I am not inclined to offer any contrary opinion on their actions. I am personally grateful they are out there, apparently within 5 minutes arrival time in any major urban area. As for their weapons, they will learn and they will adapt but remember they have the constraints of largely operating in an urban environment, in close proximity to civilians. Since 2010, the police have shot and killed 27 people in the UK, that's a rate of 4 per 10 million people over 11 years, putting us towards the bottom of the league table, just above Japan.

I heard that as well but I also heard it was a 7.62 round. Lots of rumours running about.

Bit of an old thread but I asked and was told .338 are banned because of the proximity to Farnborough Airport, the danger to aircraft on final approach that cross directly over Stickledown and the specific ricochet characteristics of that calibre.