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On 5/27/2018 at 10:28 PM, VarmLR said:

I don't know if you've considered RS62, but I'm managing considerably higher velocities than that behind 139 Scenars, albeit for a considerably higher load!  Were you experiencing pressure signs if loading up higher than 35gr using N150?  35.5 seems to be quite a light load compared with RS62 loads.  I also find velocities about 100fps down in LR brass.

What is your RS62 load with the 139gr and what velocity does that produce ?

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31 minutes ago, VarmLR said:

I use 44gr RS62 behind a 139 scenar for 2700fps in SRP brass.

 

What length barrel? 

I find people always leave this out when posting load data and velocity. 

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21 minutes ago, Scotch_egg said:

What length barrel? 

I find people always leave this out when posting load data and velocity. 

I believe Mr Varm has a Tik Tac, so its 24" (well 600mm, so just under).

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It's always puzzled me, how some people just can't handle other people being different...  

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5 hours ago, GT3_richy said:

I believe Mr Varm has a Tik Tac, so its 24" (well 600mm, so just under).

Yes, Tic-Tac with 24 inch

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To anyone who is interested, the topic at hand the S&B Creedmoor ammo. Is it worth it? I’m undecided. 

I believe it’s marketed as a training round or plinking ammo. It’s not target minded I don’t think just being FMJ. 

Out of a 26” plus a moddy it meters in at 2734fps with a “ok” BC of 0.51. Strelok tells me this gets me out to 900m supersonic. Unknown transonic performance. 

Compare this to Norma, 130gr which it quite hot at 2930 FPS with a BC of 0.548. This gets me out to 1100m supersonic. 

Ultimately the Norma and hornady options are better options.... but certainly more expensive. 

Average accuracy is seen with the S&B, I consistently grouped 1” with it. Ultimately the user needs to decide what accuracy they are happy with. Both Norma & hornady group 0.5-0.8” respectively. 

I’m struggling to see where the S&B falls in. Gets you out to most distances on Bisley, but when wanting to stretch the legs of it to it’s full potential (let’s say visiting Orion) there is clearly better options. 

For me, I can defo see a Home for S&B to run a barrel in far cheaper. But unless I’ve top shelf speed & accuracy,  the whole reason I’ve got a 6.5CM barrel then I’m going to use my .308 as a training round and save the barrel burning Creedmoor for extended ranges. 

 

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The thread drift is what it is.  Generally,  you tend to get what you pay for with bullets and I wouldn't entertain using S&B for long range use...not due to any snobbery...more because the logic (as I see it anyway) is why go to the lengths needed for consistency and low ES/good grouping at long range only to compromise any competitive (or non-competitive) edge by using bullets which are not manufactured to the same tolerance standards as competitors nor when better BC bullets exist.  The bullet you may have missed which doesn't break the bank is Lapuas excellent 139 Lapua Scenar.  Cheaper than the Normas, way cheaper than the Hornady match bullets and something of a benchmark for some years in 6.5.  That's the best answer that I can offer.

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I don’t reload at the moment, so limited to factory offerings. I indeed have a box of 139 lapua’s in my cupboard for if and when I get to reload for the 6.5

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Reason I don't reload is because I will end up loading the night before and miss filling half the cases with powder in my haste!!! It happens to others in our club - Too often

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3 minutes ago, condorman said:

Reason I don't reload is because I will end up loading the night before and miss filling half the cases with powder in my haste!!! It happens to others in our club - Too often

Had that happen on me , I was unsure if it had fired or not as there were several other shooting around me , I decided to check and sure enough a bullet head was a few inches up the spout , I dread to think what would have happend if I`d chanced it and sent another one up behind it ?

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It can happen. 

 

Certainly for me it would be harder to visit the shop to buy the ammunition. 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, markymark said:

To anyone who is interested, the topic at hand the S&B Creedmoor ammo. Is it worth it? I’m undecided. 

I believe it’s marketed as a training round or plinking ammo. It’s not target minded I don’t think just being FMJ. 

Out of a 26” plus a moddy it meters in at 2734fps with a “ok” BC of 0.51. Strelok tells me this gets me out to 900m supersonic. Unknown transonic performance. 

Compare this to Norma, 130gr which it quite hot at 2930 FPS with a BC of 0.548. This gets me out to 1100m supersonic. 

Ultimately the Norma and hornady options are better options.... but certainly more expensive. 

Average accuracy is seen with the S&B, I consistently grouped 1” with it. Ultimately the user needs to decide what accuracy they are happy with. Both Norma & hornady group 0.5-0.8” respectively. 

I’m struggling to see where the S&B falls in. Gets you out to most distances on Bisley, but when wanting to stretch the legs of it to it’s full potential (let’s say visiting Orion) there is clearly better options. 

For me, I can defo see a Home for S&B to run a barrel in far cheaper. But unless I’ve top shelf speed & accuracy,  the whole reason I’ve got a 6.5CM barrel then I’m going to use my .308 as a training round and save the barrel burning Creedmoor for extended ranges. 

 

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Thanks Mark! Interesting results..... Much faster than I thought it would be.

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