nearly there Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hi sorry if this has been covered before but is it possible to go on holiday to America and buy a shotgun or bolt action rifle that I have a slot for and bring it back home without importing to a rfd etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 No. ITAR prevents it plus Americans have to have a background check done in legal gun shops these days. You would fail that at the, "can I see your ID" question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearly there Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 No problem thanks mrcetirizine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave thorniley Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 yes go buy it and you,ll get a extended holiday in 10x10 room with a 400 pound room mate that calls you Brenda lol, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elio Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Can you bring back target bullet heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 You can bring target bullets into the county, but heads may cause some confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I thought bullets were on the ITAR list as they are an ammunition component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Bullets, Brass etc. are all controlled under ITAR. The fact that folks buy them and bring them back in their checked luggage from the US does not make it legal - it's just TSA & airline staff do not know any better! Before we get into the 'he said/she said' here is a response to this specific question from myself from the DDTC who administer this: Yes, an export license is required for ammunition and for the components, brass, powder, bullets and primers. Only a US person registered with DDTC as an exporter can apply for the license. Stephen M. GeisDDTC Response TeamContractor, XL NOTE: Information in this message generally discusses controls and information contained in the Arms Export Control Act and International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), both of which are authoritative on this matter. The Response Team fields basic process and status questions, and assists exporters in identifying how to get answers to more complex questions handled by the Directorate of Defense Trade Control's licensing and compliance offices. The Response Team's services are not a substitute or replacement for the advisory opinion, general correspondence, and commodity jurisdiction processes delineated in the ITAR, which should be used to obtain authoritative guidance on export control issues, and do not in any way relieve exporters from their responsibilities to comply fully with the law and regulations. This email is UNCLASSIFIED. But if you do not believe me ask them yourself! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Brought back another ~1000 projectiles a few months back. As always, there was a TSA inspection certificate left in my case after they opened it. I've done it at least five times without any trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Brought back another ~1000 projectiles a few months back. As always, there was a TSA inspection certificate left in my case after they opened it. I've done it at least five times without any trouble Chris - precisely, the TSA have no idea. I also, prior to being cuaght by customs, purchased bullets etc. and carried them back in my checked luggage. After being caught, charged and fined will no longer do this. I need to travel to the US for business so it is not worth the risk as this is a Federal offence. You take your chances. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybrock Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 What about optics? If bringing stuff back is about saving £££££ then these would be your biggest savings or would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Scopes with military features are covered by ITAR. There is no list of included scopes or specific features so the only way to know is to ask the relevant US department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 I've just been through this loop trying to get a Tikka M595 223 magazine.......an American dealer has offered to sell/ship me one, so I looked into it, reading the ITAR regs, and it appears to be restricted, but assuming said dealer has the appropriate licence, that should be OK But then, the contents would have to be clearly and accurately described on the package. It would then be held by the Border Agency on arrival, who would need proof of my authorisation to possess from the issuing constabulary(?) before releasing it.................then there's customs................. Think I'll stick to using it single-shot............ Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106uk Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Why would border control need to see authority to possess? you don't need one for a magazine, it's not a section 1 or 2 item, anyone can buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Why would border control need to see authority to possess? you don't need one for a magazine, it's not a section 1 or 2 item, anyone can buy them. They queried my authority to purchase 6XC dies with my FLO..... Regards JCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybrock Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 After reading all this I think I'd just enjoy your holiday, for the sakes of saving a few quid it doesn't seem worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re-Pete Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Here's a piece from the British regs regarding the importing of guns and components:: "If your item is being shipped or posted from a non-EU country, it must have a declaration on the package that clearly identifies its contents. Your item will then be held by UK Border Force whilst the validity of your domestic possession authorities are confirmed by the issuing constabulary.Your item will only be released when UKBF are satisfied that the correct authorities are in place" Now, if we are to believe the "meedya", UKBF has their work cut out presently, as have the police firearms offices, so the above will likely get zero priority............. Although you don't need an authority to possess a magazine, I guess it's still a "component". H/man . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artiglio Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Last year I ordered a neck turner and associated bits from 21st century shooting supplies, the package fell foul of whoever looked at it purely because of the company name. It was stuck with Border Force for best part of 3 months. It was implied I'd contravened firearm import law, but nobody at Border Force would look at the 21stCentury website or contact me to resolve the matter. Eventually a fellow shooter kindly forwarded some unpublished contact details and the matter was sorted. Effectively any incoming parcel is dealt with on the whims of whoever checks it, levels of common sense and training will most likely determine how fast it goes through the system, Border Force can effectively do as they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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