Dr. Strangelove Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Hi all, I'm in the market for an AR15 and I was wondering if there's really that much between the manufacturers? Is it worth shelling out for an LMT (I'm quite tempted to; damn my expensive tastes!) or will a Southern Gun work just as well? I'm not overly bothered about bells and whistles - as long as it shoots and has a picatinny rail on the receiver for mounting a sight I'm not too fussed about anything else! Sorry if this has been done before by the way - I did search! Regards, Dr. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/19789-bar-15-rifle/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_K Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have an LMT and they are a fine rifle. Problem is, eventually you will get fed up of using the charging handle and want the type that is fitted directly to the bolt (as shown above). Makes life a lot easier for UK shooters. This is not possible on the LMT because the brass deflector and forward assist gets in the way. They can be fitted on the left of the receiver as shown here: Mark at Bradley Arms did this for me recently (great job). It’s a compromise for right handed shooters, but much better than the standard set up. My advice would be to go for an AR with a side charging handle already fitted and more suitable to shooting in the UK. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Dont forget SGC and Valkyrie rifles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper811 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 If you intend to shoot PR / CSR at anytime i strongly advise you to get a side charging upper receiver from day one rather than rear charging handle ( as norm ). I wasted money this way. In the end Dave at Valkyrie sorted me with a new side charging receiver and the quality is top notch. If i were to buy another i would purchase one from a gunsmith who shoots them himself as the quality will be built in and he will know what he is on about. Personally i think the LMT is way over priced, however they are of a good quality. I i were you i would look at the rifles on offer by the likes of Dave at Valkyrie and Mark at Bradley Arms and spend the saved cash on a shed load of ammo ! Cant comment on SGC rifles as i only have a 9mm L/R from Bob. Be warned though, once you try black, theres no going back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxis35 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 I would go SGC,had a couple over years and most folk who I talk to will tell you the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 I have an SGC and I'm happy; delivered on schedule and works well enough. There are folks who have had a less positive experience though. I specced left and right charging handles but in hindsight would probably just go with right unless I was a leftie. Mark Bradley and Dave (Valkyrie rifles) both build a good gun; you won't go wrong with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'm not going to jump in and say which one is the best, although I do have a vested interest here. All I will say while trying to remain unbiased is that all the AR builders in the UK have different ideas and ethos as to what makes a good rifle and why they build it in their own particular way. By asking on the internet which one is best is like comparing apples to bananas and you'll get 20 different answers. It would be best to ring around all the different manufacturers and ask questions. I'm always available and always willing to talk, so is Baldie. The pair of us shoot competitively, at times together. The main thing in this game is not only getting what you want, but knowing that the person who builds/sells you your rifle will always be available to answer any questions and rectify any problems without quibbling and trying to say it's your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxis35 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'm not going to jump in and say which one is the best, although I do have a vested interest here. All I will say while trying to remain unbiased is that all the AR builders in the UK have different ideas and ethos as to what makes a good rifle and why they build it in their own particular way. By asking on the internet which one is best is like comparing apples to bananas and you'll get 20 different answers. It would be best to ring around all the different manufacturers and ask questions. I'm always available and always willing to talk, so is Baldie. The pair of us shoot competitively, at times together. The main thing in this game is not only getting what you want, but knowing that the person who builds/sells you your rifle will always be available to answer any questions and rectify any problems without quibbling and trying to say it's your fault. I must admit when I had both my ARs from SGC, I knew of no other builders at the time as I had no Internet at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Bradders raises a good point; if you are going to compete in CSR, you are going to be bumping into him and Baldie. Advice and help are therefore readily available. I've never met Bob (SGC) and fortunately, haven't needed his help yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I've never met Bob (SGC) and fortunately, haven't needed his help yet. You can't miss him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Strangelove Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Thanks for the replies all. I realise everyone's mileage will vary between manufacturer! For the people with SGC rifles - do you use the left hand cocking handle frequently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 when shooting from a Bipod ,not planing to do a lot of that tho this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Thanks for the replies all. I realise everyone's mileage will vary between manufacturer! For the people with SGC rifles - do you use the left hand cocking handle frequently? Not so far. Theoretically useful for rapid shooting from a bipod or for difficult extractions (right and left handed at same time.) I'd omit it if I was ordering my gun again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamytyjane Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 My SGC .223 1-8 SS barrel Hogue grip Jewel trigger T8 Mod Versapod 6-24x56 IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Jane, do you shoot that in competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamytyjane Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Not as yet. Kinda hard to find the space to practice right now. Pheasant poults in the wood so cant fire that direction and cattle in two other fields so thats off limits too. Keep meaning to get out and find more land but time is precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Looking at the bipod and scope it looks eligible for "Practical Optic" class in Civilian Service Rifle at Bisley. There's a few of us on here who compete in it if your interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Strangelove Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thanks for all the replies. After much deliberation, I decided to go with a rifle from Mark Bradley and took delivery of it last night! Photo below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thanks for all the replies. After much deliberation, I decided to go with a rifle from Mark Bradley and took delivery of it last night! Photo below: AR15.jpg :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Strangelove Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Here's a slightly better photo. The forend has keymod slots at the 3, 6 & 9 o'clock positions. All it took was some minor filing down of the attachment bolts and the bipod block fits in perfectly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cock grouse Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Very interested in one of these, what sort of price are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 My first 223 AR was. Bremmer lower , lowmil, bradly upper and cost £750The second was a SGC with go faster bits and a Kahles scope £1000And I bought one today SGC. and a acog. A few other trick bits £1195Unless you buy new and spec the gun you want get what you can and make it what you wantAll the goody bits just bolt on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle_re Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Sweet looking gat, what's the optic on top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cock grouse Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Ok thanks. Do you use yours for foxing? I've read on hear they can be noisey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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