Chris-NZ Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 http://www.freemewildlife.org.za/gup/filez/Rhino%20Poaching%20View%20from%20a%20Vet.pdf What can you say? Chris-NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 That's wildly upsetting. I can only imagine the vet's anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
provarmint Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 That is cruelty beyond belief, total absence of any compassion, disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22-250jock Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 having been tought from a young age to have respect for your quarry, whatever it be, rabbit, fox or deer, and to ensure the quickest means of dispatch to minimise any suffering, this makes me feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 No words can cover this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtb Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 absolutely disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Makes you wonder, what kind of person could do this. I am speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuck Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Makes you sad a tragic story for one fine animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 That is outrageous, such a noble beast........Lets hope those w.....s suffer a similar fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Two ways to combat this. 1, Shoot poachers dead on sight. 2. Do not buy any goods whatsoever that originate in China. These people are plundering Africa,s animals for "medicine". Hit them where it hurts...in their pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkyboy Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Im with Baldie on this one...Id also hit them in the head as well..... with a .50 cal !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Update: my SAFer mate who sent me this tells me they caught the mongrel and he's now doing 40yrs, a record sentence. And I'd suspect SAF jails ain't the 5-star hotels we have in our neck of the woods.. Chris-NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Update: my SAFer mate who sent me this tells me they caught the mongrel and he's now doing 40yrs, a record sentence. And I'd suspect SAF jails ain't the 5-star hotels we have in our neck of the woods.. Chris-NZ This was a particularly nasty bit of poaching,as seen from 'our' perspective,though the UK is by no means completely free of cruel poaching. One option for some poachers is 'conversion to gamekeepers'-some poachers at least don't poach because it is easy and very well rewarded-the real money getters are further up the supply line,and need different treatments.Using the converts first hand,inside knowledge and often excellent tracking skills is far more likely to protect the remaining animals,and also means the ex-poachers wives and innocent children don't starve either.An 'eye for an eye' just doesn't make for much improvement here.Conservation means good management. george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnery Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 it is behond me how man can be so cruel to such a majestic animal as that i am the same as baldie they should be shot not jailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 One option for some poachers is 'conversion to gamekeepers'-some poachers at least don't poach because it is easy and very well rewarded-the real money getters are further up the supply line,and need different treatments.Using the converts first hand,inside knowledge and often excellent tracking skills is far more likely to protect the remaining animals,and also means the ex-poachers wives and innocent children don't starve either.An 'eye for an eye' just doesn't make for much improvement here.Conservation means good management. george +1 agreed Just done a long winded response and somehow lost it Basically chatting with two Nigerian acquaintances today prompted by this post and the poachers are not making big money. Sometimes, and I am in no way trying to justify this despicable act, it is neccessary to make ends meet. Africa as a continent has some weird extremes with oil/gas guys having 3 or 4 jets and then not far away you have Ethiopia and Eritria (sp?)with absolutely nothing. Far better IMHO the scenario of some not all "poacher turned gamekeeper" and providing an income than leaving these people to find their own income Then arm the gamekeepers to shoot on sight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhunter Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Utterly pointless and barbaric act, the perpetrators want hacked to bits and left out in the bush for a very long and painfully death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Utterly pointless and barbaric act, the perpetrators want hacked to bits and left out in the bush for a very long and painfully death. another pointless and barbaric act nor does it protect any rhinos-poachers accept high risk (getting shot eg)-there is no welfare state safety net.And the kids left destitute ? Barbaric treatment didn't prevent poaching in Britain,either.More game wardens are what's needed-ultimately more education about the 'medicinal' nonsense issues-the rhinos want prevention not revenge meanwhile!I want to see a rhino saved,not a poacher butchered. george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 For what its worth I think its a blend of education, legislation and enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 For what its worth I think its a blend of education, legislation and enforcement. Yes,agreed-it usually is. The revulsion is more about the method used here. The general underlying issue is the preservation of a breeding stock of wild rhinos. If the poachers had access to small portable electric saws,the suffering would be avoided and the hornless rhinos would still breed(incidentally chipping away at the absurd beliefs that their horn is aphrodisiacal-the real problem to overcome.) You may not like it(but ask why not?),but the rhinos might be better served by making such gear available-short term of course,while education,legislation and enforcement are vigourously pursued. I would prefer to live in a world where no-one wanted to shoot an elephant for 'sport',but meanwhile,if someone pays $70,000 to shoot a selected non breeding old bull,and much of that money goes into active conservation,then it's about as pragmatic as we are likely to get for a while.And in enough of Africa,such systems are in place,as to remove any immediate threat to the species.The elephants are too valuable a resource to squander,allow to be poached if you like. Snow leopards etc pose a more severe logistic problem,and tourist revenue isn't likely;'set aside'-pay poachers not to-is one short term option,but the problems are formidable,and education doesn't happen overnight even in UK etc where there is much less economic reason for pressures on wildlife. Conservation means good management,but not 'tooth for tooth' retaliation, nor 'tree hugging' bambi-ism. george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 This makes me feel physically sick and very angry at the same time. Education as with most problems is the key to moving forward but in the mean time a programme of de horning the rhinos may help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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