Re-Pete

Three of us had Century to ourselves this morning.....light winds and good light.

Four hours at 600 yds on an electronic target........worked out at £15 each.

Can't understand why it's not more popular...............(I live 50 miles down the M3, and I get here once a fortnight.)

Re-Pete

petesv said :  "123gr lapua scenars in 260 rem & 6.5 creedmoor the dogs do dars "............add 6.5x47 Lap to that and maybe get them here: http://www.ballisticservice24.eu/lapua-2/

Currently 281 euro's/1000- plus shipping or from Foxfirearms oop norf, around £290/1000 + £9 shipping, I think......

Re-Pete

I can't see any catering packs of bullets there, only the 100 round taster boxes.

Re-Pete

Pity you're not south of the M4....................

Pete

That result in those weather conditions is impressive, whatever the target !!!

If only we could do it every time................

Re-Pete

F-class or TR aiming mark?

Re-Pete

I put a 6.5x47 together using a Tikka M595 off Guntrader for £295, a GRS Hybrid stock ready inletted for £625, and a Lothar 30" 8 twist barrel blank, £300, plus £300 for chambering and proof.

Excellent 1000yd rifle using 123 grain or 136 grain Scenars.

Bear in mind that the 6.5 Swede is an old hunting calibre, and not widely used by the target shooting fraternity.

Re-Pete

Sounds like he/she REALLY knows the rifle, and how to read the wind.

It backs up my comments on another thread where everyone was getting a bit anal about MV, ES, and SD.................at the end of the day, it's group size that matters, and your ability to put the centre of the group in the right place.

Pete

What Baldie said.............with a decent barrel etc., the 223 is very capable, but only if you feed it properly.

Pete

If you want that kind of performance up to 600yds, first choice has to be a 6BR with an 8 twist barrel..............plus 105 Scenar "L"'s, RS52 powder, Lapua brass, and KVB-223M primers.

A 30" barrel is nice for trying to keep 'em in the F-class 4 ring at 1000yds. On Stickledown, that can be hard, but great fun all the same................

Re-Pete

CG Jackson trigger is 2-stage and adjustable..............and very nice.

My 223 was originally built as a TR, (the rules allow 223 or 308), and came with aperture sights, thumbhole stock etc., but no way could it compete with the 308.

I bought it for informal target practice which it does very well.

Re-Pete,

223's are great fun, especially when you get in to reloading. There's so much stuff to try out. But be warned, the wind will do your head in ?

Mine's an M595 with a 30" 8 twist barrel, CG Jackson trigger set to 450grams, and a GRS laminate stock.

I load to 3050fps for 1000yds with SMK 80 grainers, and 2800fps for 600yds using Lapua brass and KVB-223M primers, powder is RS52.

On a still day, it'll shoot <2 moa at 600 yds.

Pete

69grainers will only work on a flat calm day at 600yds. The least breath of wind, and it suddenly goes pear-shaped (yep, we've been there....)

If you have an 8 twist barrel, try 80grain bullets. SMK's work well in mine, as do JLK's. Even kept 7 out of 10 of them within the F-class 4 ring at 1000yds on one memorably flat calm frosty morning.

Memorable for Stickledown, that is............even when the flags are still, there can be turbulence, especially if you're on lanes 45-50.

Pete

I have 2 CG Universal (Jackson) T3 triggers on my M595's, and they work perfectly. (I got mine from Baldie on here.)

Not sure about the factory originals, though.

Re-Pete

I doubt it's a kosher 70's Omega for £200.............loads of fakes out there. do some research and you will be surprised what the genuine high end old bangers go for.

I bought one of these a year ago:               https://www.amazon.co.uk/Invicta-Analogue-Automatic-Stainless-Bracelet/dp/B001E96DHA 

A 24 jewel self-winding Japanese movement for £89 ? AND it's waterproof to 200m (allegedly....)

Re-Pete

Do you have access to a borescope? I've seen a new 223 Savage barrel that was deeply pitted in the last 12 inches before the muzzle. There were gaps in the lands and a very poor crown................ this didn't shoot.

Re-Pete

I've been booking lanes at Bisley roughly once a fortnight since 2007, and I've found that when a marker is good, he/she is very good, and when you get a bad one, it's a bloody frustrating waste of time/ammunition/diesel...............

That said, I can count the very bad experiences on the fingers of one hand, and I've always made a point of "bunging" the good markers.

Asking for known good individuals when booking also helps.

Re-Pete

I've been booking lanes at Bisley for the last 6 or 7 years, roughly once a fortnight, and I can count the no. of slow NRA markers I've had on one hand.

I've also hefted the frames on Century, and a slightly built teenager might well have a problem marking high shots, or even lifting the frames.........

I think that in the main, they do a good job.

RePete

"even giving 5's and V bulls when the shooter has purposely aimed into the one ring"...............7

I would be seriously p%%sed if I thought that was happening, having driven 50 miles and paid for a mornings shooting.

That's why we mostly use a highly competent marker hired privately...............

RePete

The point is if you can't trust the marker absolutely, then you're wasting your time and money.

If they don't mark accurately and give good feedback, they simply shoudn't be doing it.

RePete

What lens did you get in the end?

RePete

So how many have you made to date? Do you advertise them anywhere else?

RePete

:D :D

RePete (wish I knew how to do that on my laptop.....)

You might at least have done it in Cyrillic.....!!!

RePete

How many have you made/sold so far?

RePete