hunter87 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 You will have to stump up for the AXMC then.... No not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter87 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Do you think the Viper Skins serve the user better? No I think they are both ugly the stock forend is fine but once you move onto the shape of the pistol grip and stock I think it looks butt ugly much prefare the AW shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wow, the AT really does offer a lot of gun for the money. I can see my AE MkIII being sold when the AT is actually in stock - next year I'd imagine. I'm also interested in more information about the AXMC, since I'm assuming by the stament below, in long action it would be possible to run a .308 & .338 on one chassis? Guessing you just need a spare mag and bolt? If so, hopefully the extras would be priced sensibly... "The AXMC is a user configurable, mission adaptable, long range sniper system available in 308/7.62 NATO, 300 Winchester® Magnum and 338 Lapua® Magnum." Thats how I understand it works Tiff. I believe the full kit with a case, spare bolts barrels etc is circa £12000. I,m outa spare kidneys unfortunatly. It had crossed my mind when I ordered my AX last year to sell all the respective calibres and buy one of these.... Have to say I absolutely love my AX. Shot it at 1000 , 800 , 600 and 400 last week at Diggle and only came 20 points behind the winner shooting one of my .260,s. Mine is in .308 and I had some very bad butt marking. Very capable rifles....and very addictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Very sad to hear that your BUTT is badly marked Dave...must play rough up at Diggle!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have just re-read the spec sheet on AI's website. It states that the AX .308 is available as a stand alone rifle. I have seen no material relating it. So it might not have the upgraded stock or quick lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting features, not sure if anyone else agrees but I think they have designed both these new rifles with US civ market in mind.....the QD barrel feature is useful if you have several calibres and it's much easier to swap and change barrels and calibres in the US than the uk where we have the hassle of variations etc, fancy trying a different calibre in the US and it's a simple case of ordering a new chambered barrel, it comes in the mail a few weeks later. As for military application if it was possible to swap between .338 and .308 then I can understand but then you need the long action. If you do have several barrels here in the UK how many here could see themselves regularly using that feature when you still have to re zero etc or just stick your favourite .260 or 6.5x47 barrel on and leave it on. Base Price seems good though, interesting to see if the "optional extras" quickly knock the price up like on the AW and AW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Me likey, That may just persuade me to buy a new bolt gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I see the new AX AICS folds to the right over the bolt handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offroad Gary Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 That night vision rail will prove really useful.. Nice update though, will it really devalue the AE mkiii? Can't really see the point in changing for average joe. I was toying with selling mine the other day and having a decent custom built as a 1 gun tactical stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 As for military application if it was possible to swap between .338 and .308 then I can understand but then you need the long action. I don't see swappable calibres having any military application at all; it's a highly sellable civvy sporting idea - or marketing waffle from civvy designers who don't understand the military........all the swappable bits would get lost/ damaged in the first issue/receipt cycle; and if they didn't, there's no one in the world who's going to deploy with -and use- swappable kits......there are too many things to think about on ops that are actually important, and no space for 'hmmm, which calibre today?' gun nerditry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alijnclarke Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I see the new AX AICS folds to the right over the bolt handle. That's an interesting point, wonder how much that will restrict aftermarket handles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I am sure you will like the new product improvements and I can assure you of at lease one surprise with one of the models.See you at the show. Tom Irwin Accuracy International Not being silly, but I haven't spotted it; what was the surprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 That's an interesting point, wonder how much that will restrict aftermarket handles I don't think aftermarket handles are a priority for AI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwinnall Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi, from an engineering point of view,I would never buy a quick change barrel option. So i'd only swap my AE for an AX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi, from an engineering point of view,I would never buy a quick change barrel option. So i'd only swap my AE for an AX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo3 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not being silly, but I haven't spotted it; what was the surprise? I will stick with DTA what about you and have you got it yet cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwinnall Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 This option isn't as strong as a barrel screwed into an action is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 This option isn't as strong as a barrel screwed into an action is it? The barrel is still screwed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offroad Gary Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not being silly, but I haven't spotted it; what was the surprise? The grub screw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Just doing some fag packet maths and more reading: 2366 (AT non folder, unthreaded) + 281 (folding) + ? 150 (threaded muzzle) + ? 150 (muzzle brake) + VAT = £3536 To my read, it looks to be an AW in all respects; but at a reduced price point (?) The AXMC looks very nice; love the stock - anyone spot the new weight (2,6: Heave!) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 The AXMC is the old .338 hence weight gain. There is a stand alone AX.308 but nothing has been reported regards updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I don't see swappable calibres having any military application at all; it's marketing waffle from civvy designers who don't understand the military........all the swappable bits would get lost/ damaged in the first issue/receipt cycle; and if they didn't, there's no one in the world who's going to deploy with -and use- swappable kits......there are too many things to think about on ops that are actually important, and no space for 'hmmm, which calibre today?' gun nerditry. Agreed, which is why I think its very much oriented for US civi market, even if they wanted to market it to the military or police for 'reduced training costs' for example, or as a solution to other marketing department 'problems' they cant as it won't fit in the action. You could imagine the "oops Ive lost the Allen key boss" conversation. There certainly are other things to think about on ops such as proximity to coffee shops and quality hotel accommodation. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 This option isn't as strong as a barrel screwed into an action is it? Its every bit as strong - same number of threads, same strong AI action. The only difference is its not torqued down into the action but held in place by the retaining grub screw. I can't honestly see AI releasing something that has not been rigorously tested and for those of us that are not using them in a professional capacity I think its a moot point. As an aside If you think about it you're actually reducing stress on the barrelled action by not torquing the barrel in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offroad Gary Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Just doing some fag packet maths and more reading: 2366 (AT non folder, unthreaded) + 281 (folding) + ? 150 (threaded muzzle) + ? 150 (muzzle brake) + VAT = £3536 To my read, it looks to be an AW in all respects; but at a reduced price point (?) So whats actually happened here is the "entry level" AI has become more expensive, and the "obsolete" military AW gets sold into the civilian market at a slightly lower price than before. People looking to enter into new AI ownership end up paying more, for unnecessary features and robustness, with no gain in accuracy potential. Good marketing strategy, with smoke and mirrors provided by the grub screw! They do look nice though, anyone want to buy an AE with all the trimmings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 You could imagine the "oops Ive lost the Allen key boss" conversation. and "I can't get the barrel back in boss" closely followed by 'I've crossed the threads boss" ...which would be similar to the 'I've knackered the threads using the spare barrel as a jemmy boss" as well as "The .338 bolts we brought won't close in the 7.62 barrels we fitted the last time we used them boss - don't worry, we can have the 7.62 barrels shipped to theatre by the end of the month" "we left them set up in 7.62 - and there's only 338 ammo in theatre; don't worry, we'll break down link boss" etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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