JDBenelliM1 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Hi guys, I'm in the market for a day/ night scope for rabbits and foxes. The wraith 4K has caught me eye but I'm open to suggestions or comments, pro and cons if anyone has experience with them. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 There is a new 4k day/night scope (Wulf 4k) coming from Optics Warehouse in a couple of weeks which uses standard 30mm scope rings Price will be £799 Performance should be the same or very similar to the Wraith 4K https://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/night-vision-thermal/night-vision/night-vision-riflescopes/brand-wulf_optics I'll be getting one of these to test as soon as they arrive, so don't spend you money just yet! Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, phoenix said: There is a new 4k day/night scope (Wulf 4k) coming from Optics Warehouse in a couple of weeks which uses standard 30mm scope rings Price will be £799 Performance should be the same or very similar to the Wraith 4K https://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/night-vision-thermal/night-vision/night-vision-riflescopes/brand-wulf_optics I'll be getting one of these to test as soon as they arrive, so don't spend you money just yet! Cheers Bruce This is what I’m waiting to have a look at .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Believe it or not I managed to have a look through a Wulf a few nights ago! It seemed to be quite good for the money. Unfortunately The only other digital night vision that I have looked through to judge it by was a Drone Pro, not surprisingly the DP eclipsed it by some margin. The owner of both the DP and the Wulf did a test in daylight where the results were reversed. Im sitting tight and will await the opinions on both the Pulsar C50 and Wulf 4K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevgun Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Iray also have a Tubed unit now, so it could be interesting to see what’s what and what is the best value for money out of them. If only Pard did a tubed unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBenelliM1 Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 6:26 PM, phoenix said: There is a new 4k day/night scope (Wulf 4k) coming from Optics Warehouse in a couple of weeks which uses standard 30mm scope rings Price will be £799 Performance should be the same or very similar to the Wraith 4K https://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk/night-vision-thermal/night-vision/night-vision-riflescopes/brand-wulf_optics I'll be getting one of these to test as soon as they arrive, so don't spend you money just yet! Cheers Bruce Thanks Bruce, I'll keep an eye out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Hinge Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I have a wulf 4k and I'm very happy with it. If you want an nv scope for foxing out to 300yrd and beyond the wulf will do the job as long as you can range the target👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffo1960 Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I have had mine for 4 days, but only been out twice so far I am very pleased with it, shot 1 fox 180 yards,I also have a sightmark wraith 4k, and when I get time I am going to have them side by side, same ir and same distance, but lacking time at the moment, to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBenelliM1 Posted October 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeffo1960 said: I have had mine for 4 days, but only been out twice so far I am very pleased with it, shot 1 fox 180 yards,I also have a sightmark wraith 4k, and when I get time I am going to have them side by side, same ir and same distance, but lacking time at the moment, to do it That would be really useful Jeffo. I'll sit tight. I did have a look through a wolf 4k and was impressed with the day image. I have no experience with any of the latest 4k models so any side by side comparisons would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 4k day/night scopes are at their best in daylight because there is plenty of light and all the pixels in the sensor are able to produce a good signal At night they are no better than full HD scopes because the sensor pixels are so small and insensitive that they have to "bundle" groups of pixels together to act like a single larger pixel. It means that in NV mode, the effective number of pixels being used is no better than with full HD sensor such as found in the PARD or the Wraith HD (or upcoming Pulsar Digex C50) Cheers Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffo1960 Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I disagree I had a pard 008, and the SIGHTMARK WRAITH 4K, was much better at night, and day, hence sold the Pard and kept the wraith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSOK Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 I sold my 008 once i saw a friends wraith 4k mainly because of how stunning the day use seemed which was in a different league to my Pard ..... I still feel that night use is better as well with the wraith but this maybe due to a better contrast , screen size or even just being able to increase the mag by 0.1x rather than having to jump from 6.5x to 13x I was interested in seeing what the wraith was like against the Drone 15x using the Dragonfly on both .... Out to 250 yards or so they both seemed similar in seeing clearly any target but stretching them out to a 440 yard hedgerow the wraith lost the clarity where the Drone was still clear enough OSOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggy Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just had a look through the wulf , pard and Atn 4K all daytime , clear winner was the wulf , not a patch on glass obviously but clear , realistic couloirs and a good operating system, I would put the pard and Atn about level , ATN has a larger screen pard is light and compact . the Rfd is going to let me borrow then for a night time comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezedtee Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 1:15 PM, Aggy said: Just had a look through the wulf , pard and Atn 4K all daytime , clear winner was the wulf , not a patch on glass obviously but clear , realistic couloirs and a good operating system, I would put the pard and Atn about level , ATN has a larger screen pard is light and compact . the Rfd is going to let me borrow then for a night time comparison. Now that would be an interesting comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty_seven Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 I'm torn between the 4K or the pard008 but I heard the 4k has got a better wider view and seem to be a lot more popular and cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSOK Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 The 4k is head and shoulders above the 008 having had both OSOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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