Lloyd Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 This is my tikka t3 tac a1 in .223 after about 300 rounds down the tube its a 16 months old... To say in disgusted to have found it is an understatement. The rifle only left the house about 5 times and was cleaned regularly. The gun has now been sent back to the supplier for warranty but am skeptical on to whats going to happen.. the pitting starts at the chamber and disappears as you get to about 4 - 6 inches from the crown.. anyone have any ideas to what might be causing it? i have a sako trg in the same safe with no issues and its fired about 3000 rounds i know the trg is chrome lined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 My mate bought a new tikka tactical 223 a couple of years ago and its pitted in places as well. The chrome moly barrels on sako and tikka rifles seem to be prone to this. He also has a trg with the chrome moly barrel that is pitted as well. I have an older trg that came with the stainless barrel and it's still perfect. Also the trg barrels are not chrome lined. It's only an internet rumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Blimey that's bad 😱 What ammo you used? Also palo is correct - no chrome lining on a TRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 N/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 I wondered if you had shot any corrosive primers - clearly not. Best of luck with the warranty return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOM Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 8:19 AM, Lloyd said: My thought was on corrosive primers but no, so perhaps a few patches of JB Compound and see what happens. If they warranty this great. Best wishes for good shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsauwgyEHU here is a video of chamber to muzzle and back to chamber of the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmidtP3 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Whoa, gutted for you mate, that looks terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banus02 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 good evening,i have a cz 527 1 in 9 twist and the barrel is worse than that but cz said its out of warranty and barrels are consumables,i hope tikka do the right thing for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palo Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 That's terrible. I hope they sort it out for you. Please let us know how things work out. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Will keep you posted returns and warranty could take a lengthy time. However I will be posting the outcome and how tikka/sako honour their warranty as for now 2500 euro of a rifle is not in my possession anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerunner Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 I know it looks terrible and I hope they sort the rifle to your satisfaction. Out of interest, how does it shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, rangerunner said: I know it looks terrible and I hope they sort the rifle to your satisfaction. Out of interest, how does it shoot? Haven't shot the gun longer ranges so dont know and haven't really done much with it since December last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) One theory i have heard is light rust forms in the barrel and if you don't clean it before firing it will rip out the rust when the bullet passes and cause pitting. Anyone heard this before? Edited June 19, 2020 by Lloyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Lloyd said: One theory i have heard is light forms in the barrel and if you don't clean it before firing it will rip out the rust when the bullet passes and cause pitting. Anyone heard this before? Light forms? Do you mean light rust forms? If so, it shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Yea sorry light rust i meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmidtP3 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 I shouldn't think it would cause it. This is an interesting read on proper pitting, shocking how it is not just 'skin deep' but actually quite deeply affected. Link here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 What do you clean with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Sweets 7.62 left in for ten minutes, jb bore paste sometimes, brunox spray oil to clean those out then hoppes no9 and last 303 gun oil if being stored for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Isn't Sweets ammonia based? This may have something to do with the pitting - it's got a bad rep. for the very problem you have The problem is getting it all out when you're done. There are plenty of way better products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: 13 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: Isn't Sweets ammonia based? This may have something to do with the pitting - it's got a bad rep. for the very problem you have The problem is getting it all out when you're done. There are plenty of way better products I use it in the 308 aswell with no issues... maybe the steel is better in it I'm switching over to bore tech or what would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Wipe Out Patch-Out is excellent as is Wipe-Out Tactical Advantage. The dogs doodahs IMHO Bore Tech and KG products are good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: Wipe Out Patch-Out is excellent as is Wipe-Out Tactical Advantage. The dogs doodahs IMHO Bore Tech and KG products are good too. If it was the sweets that did it surely it would be throughout the entire barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOM Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lloyd said: If it was the sweets that did it surely it would be throughout the entire barrel? I have used Sweets for years and zero pitting or other issues, I am extremely careful to purge the bore of it before storing the rifle. Mostly I use what ever gun oil at hand to purge the Sweets. If possible I flood the bore with a saturated swab then patches with yet more oil. Probably doe this for 20 mins to ensure all residue is gone , hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABOOM Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Popsbengo said: Isn't Sweets ammonia based? This may have something to do with the pitting - it's got a bad rep. for the very problem you have The problem is getting it all out when you're done. There are plenty of way better products Yes ammonia based as is Montana Extreme 50BMG copper killer, I use both with zero issues. However when I finally run out Bore Tech is my choice. My sole reason to change is the smell of Sweets and Montana Extreme. Would firing strip rust and make pitting? I wonder, my natural skeptic is engaged on that idea. Never have fired a shot through a rusted bore seemed a poor idea, and the one rusted bore that was purchased by a friend we cleaned with extreme vigor to remove the "furry rust coat" before firing. This was a Swedish Mauser M-94 infantry model likely shot with corrosive ammo and ignored before we rescued it from a pawn shop, zero pitting in that bore and I cant explain why not. This is one topic that makes my brain itch. My barrels are Savage, Shilen, Ruger, Husqvarna, Brno, CZ, Rock Island, Eddystone, Springfield (USG version) Smith Corona. None of these pitted after Sweets or Montana Extreme, I don't think the barrel steel differs a huge amount and one of these bores was pre pitted from corrosive GI Ball in service. Best wishes for good shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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