WHAT'S OUT THERE !!!

[SteveW]

The subject of big cats living wild in the UK has fascinated me for many years, and i've followed with great interest all the alledged sitings and therories on the subject

 

I just thought i'd ask on here if any members or guests have had any experiences or thoughts on the subject, as we have many eyes in some of the most remote parts of our little island.

 

Cheers Steve

[foxhunter]

I personally dont think they are out there , if they were someone would have got good videoe footage by now or even shot them. A lot of sightings I think are just your normal moggy on a bleak winter backstop which makes them look bigger than they actually are.

 

I dont tend to believe these things until positive evidence is produced , but then again someone will prove me wrong no doubt !!!

[SteveW]

Hi Foxhunter

 

I have to say I agree totally agree with, but there's always that nagging doubt !!!

Imagine coming across one whilst out with NV or lamping ?? Think I'd need a clean pair of trousers !!!

 

Steve

[bruxie hill]

i have to say they are out there

to many of my mates have seen them

1 . mate out with kids in a young plantation seen 2 deer sat and watched then notised not the only one watching a sandy coulored puma watching 2

 

2 same mates wife out beside back door of having a fag hears what she described as a baby screaming from middle of the field she looked in to it and was told it was a female looking for a mate

 

3 many sightings of a black puma when a pipeline went through the area

 

4 local man in village saw it in the wood just out side the village scared the crap out of him and his dog

and the dog will still not go in the wood yet

 

5 a sheep farmer where i have permission saw in about50 yards away at night while checking lambs clear as day with a spot lamp he said to me he knew that that day a sheep had died and he had not had time to to pick it up next morning went to get it and he said there was just a carcase left it was licked clean and fox does not do that

 

but if you really want to here a cracker ask aquhollie he is on this site he saw some thing one night that made 2 grown men run for home

 

all the best bruxie

[baldie]

I know a man that shot one with a .243, it was eating his sheep. He wounded it, and it went into a deep pennine rockpile, where it had obviously been living, looking at the amount of bones and crap lying around the rocks. This guy is a sheep farmer, and pheasant rearer, and shoot hundreds of foxes a year, as his land is "dumped" on by you know who.

It frightened him, and his lamp partner half to death apparently, and neither wanted to explore the rockpile further. They had followed the blood trail to it.

[craigyboy]

There have been reports of one is this area. I got called to a farm that has lost 8 lambs this week alone in the mountains, I have shot 4 foxes this week in that area and last night another 2 lambs went missing. They are completely eating them in the field, just leaving rib cages. The biggest lamb they have taken is 3 weeks old which is a fair old lump of a lamb for foxes to take, I have never seen a case of foxes etaing lambs like this one and I seriously am half expecting to run into a big cat or something, I have never believed in the stories about big cats but this past week I have started wondering , I am back out tonight if I come home with a panther I will post a pic

 

(ps I dont really believe in them but this latest spate of killings is very extreme for foxes but I am sure it is still foxes but it does make you wonder)

[stag1933]

A Lake-District farmer had one in his lamp beam a couple of years ago.[ Baldi will know him as his farm joins Barkers.]

He said it had its paws on a wall looking over a low place. I asked him if it was rug-size and he said it was.

He is a keen hunting man and knows the relative size of Foxes and Pussycats.

Another local farmer who is a keen Fox shooter looked for it a few times but never saw it.

 

One morning last year I was out early and saw the biggest black Moggie of my life cross between two small forests with no farm nearby.

It too was small rug size and this was not far over the hills from the other sighting.

In all honesty I do not know if this was just a huge domestic Pussy or not. It never has been seen again.

 

HWH.

[silentsoulsleave308holes]

I personally dont think they are out there , if they were someone would have got good videoe footage by now or even shot them. A lot of sightings I think are just your normal moggy on a bleak winter backstop which makes them look bigger than they actually are.

 

I dont tend to believe these things until positive evidence is produced , but then again someone will prove me wrong no doubt !!!

 

 

 

 

 

a good few years ago there was some video footage of a black cat crossing a track here in cornwall and the footage was shown on a westcountry documentry on cats

 

it was taken by people walking their dogs some distance away from one of clay peaks and an investigation took place on the track that the cat crossed

 

the cat took up most of the track's width when it crossed and the track is wide enough for a small lorry to pass down

 

I personally know the track well as its on one of my permissions

 

a friend and I have seen a cat at long range there on tother side of a long quarry and this thing was big

[nell]

I think its strange that us lot sneaking around the countryside at all hours never see these big cats, yet joe blogs out walking his dog on a sat afternoon sees them everywhere . Dont you think the HOUNDS would flush one from time to time?

Would be fun to bring a specialist hound from the states and see what we came up with

Forgot no hunting with dogs

Nell

[Guest varmartin]

Silent and my self were out on some land of his last year when we entered a narrow `valley ` type field.

I was surprised to see to my left , close to a hedge line a `Large Black Cat`looking right into the hedge.

 

Now the hedge was well over 5 feet tall and this `Cat` was easily as long as the hedge was tall.

 

I don`t know what it was...but I can tell you what it was not...and that`s a domestic cat.

 

We have had discussions on this subject before, and don't know where we would stand if we were stalked buy one and `needed` to shoot it. !! ...

 

They are definitely out there....some where.

[SteveW]

[Now the hedge was well over 5 feet tall and this `Cat` was easily as long as the hedge was tall.

 

I don`t know what it was...but I can tell you what it was not...and that`s a domestic cat.]

 

Hi Martin

 

Had it been seen since previous to your encounter, or since ?? Had there been any suspicious killings of livestock or domestic animals ??

 

Were you & Silent shaken about the sighting ?, what was your thought's on what you had seen ? Apologies for so many questions but it's a subject hold great interest, and for doubting you, but there are so many sightings by people who really have no perception on animal form in a natural inviroment.

 

Cheers Steve

[auquhollie]

There was a TV reporter and her dog attacked up near here in Inch. She was up doing a report on farming. She went out about nine at night from her B&B to walk old rover and from out of a ditch sprung a black cat and scratched have her dog open. The dog had to have surgery and later recovered. Never really heard and TV coverage of the sighting but the farmer had seen it on two occasions and then in lambing time found a small wood scattered with lamb and sheep carcasses.......

 

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[SteveW]

Hi Ads

 

"but if you really want to here a cracker ask aquhollie he is on this site he saw some thing one night that made 2 grown men run for home "

 

all the best bruxie

 

I'm dying to ask, what happened !!!

 

ATB Steve

[silentsoulsleave308holes]

there have been sightings of big cats near the land martin states but on this occasion it was a large lynx

 

there are a few on that piece of land and I have watched them for a while through the scope before

 

they are lovely to see and their coat colours vary

 

the cat that day sat there long enough for me to point it out to martin who was in his truck behind mine and he was shocked to see it just sat there and shocked to see it disapear in a flash, I was shocked it stayed there long enough for him to see aswell as they are normally like ghosts but this bugger was just taking the mick

[Guest varmartin]

[Now the hedge was well over 5 feet tall and this `Cat` was easily as long as the hedge was tall.

 

I don`t know what it was...but I can tell you what it was not...and that`s a domestic cat.]

 

Hi Martin

 

Had it been seen since previous to your encounter, or since ?? Had there been any suspicious killings of livestock or domestic animals ??

 

Were you & Silent shaken about the sighting ?, what was your thought's on what you had seen ? Apologies for so many questions but it's a subject hold great interest, and for doubting you, but there are so many sightings by people who really have no perception on animal form in a natural inviroment.

 

Cheers Steve

 

Hi steve,

 

I was troubled by what I saw but not scared. Spooked maybe, as the hairs on my neck stood up .

 

As Silent said, he has seen them before so they are in the surrounding area ( Bodmin )

 

I cannot comment on the killings of livestock or domestic animals as I do not live in the area of the sighting.

 

I am sure you have typed in `Beast of Bodmin` on you tube. There is a lot of crap about , but some of it is real.

 

Make of it what you will....Maybe you have to `see it to believe it ` or is it ...`believe it to see it`.

 

I am still on the look out and often look over my shoulder when that icy tingle runs down my spine

[Bambi-basher]

I have stood looking at one at 20yrds, it is the only time I can say that I could not believe my eyes, my brain seemed to be saying it a fox or dog but my eyes kept saying it’s a spiral staircaseing lion. It just sauntered of it was not concerned by my or my dogs presents. It was the size of a large Labrador and tan in colour, it looked like an American Cougar to me not that I have seen any other cougars in the flesh before.

 

A woman then also saw a big cat about a mile away a couple of days later and reported it to the local paper.

 

My Father in law and daughter in law both sat in a caravan as one walked past the window, other people on the site also claimed to have seen the animal.

 

A bloke I worked with claim to have seen one also but black in colour.

 

My mate had one in his lamp when foxing, the only reason he did not shoot it was because it was up a tree and there was no back stop.

 

Best rgds

 

B-b

[nell]

Im deffinetly see it to believe it we see every other british mammal lying dead besides our busy roads, any big cats spotted??? no pun intended black or fawn will do

What about that ROADKILL chap that was on the tv, did he come from Bodmin area?

NELL

[Wsm]

What about that ROADKILL chap that was on the tv, did he come from Bodmin area?

NELL

 

Wasn`t that Varminter ?

[Alycidon]

A friend id ed a black panther at about 80 yards one night early last year. Slipped away through a hedge before he could get a shot with is .243. Never seen one myself though.

 

A

[Vermincinerator]

I am a complete sceptic on these sightings, and will be untill i either see one in the flesh myself or adead one close up.

I will have to say however that since these sightings span from cornwall to the highlands there must be thousands of the things roaming the countryside so i re-iterate how come no one has shot one yet or one has not turned up dead.

 

Ian.

[Alycidon]

I dont think there's thousands but probably 20 or 30 different animals of one type of another around the country. In fairness I am aware of miss iding them, I shot a fox a couple of years ago that my keeper had ided as something big and black and not a fox the night before, it was a big dark fox.

 

I suspect that the authorities cover up any they come to know about for fear of causing panic etc. there was also an issue with wording on certificates at one time as well but my latest one seems to give me a green light when protecting humans and livestock.

 

A

[Ratwhiskers]

If I go back about 15 years I can remember my Grandfather coming back from a look over some cattle and saying that he'd disturbed what he thought was a calf laying in a ditch. When he drove over to get it up and move it on, it sprang to it's feet and lept out of the 3 foot ditch and clean over a pig net fence with two strands of barbed wire without contacting it at all. He discribed it as having no muzzle and a tail as long as a broomstick but twice a thick, and bigger than any dog he'd ever seen. I showed him a picture of a Cougar/Mountain Lion and he said that's him but he was a bit darker than the photo.

 

I also know of a young chap that was beat keepering on a place some miles north of here, who was told by him boss that if any of the boys on that ground should happen to shoot such a creature then they should keep their mouths shut. He said the request came from the local Plod who had recieved several reports of a BIG MOGGY being seen in the area, and as said didn't want to start a riot.

 

The question may be this.... Some years ago LACS and I think the RSPCA tried to have a chap before the bench for shooting a ferol boar as he'd not got it on his ticket, though I think no one had at the time..... So...... Who fancies being in the same fix when they stand up for the Big Prize and all the glory??!!

 

Would I shoot it?... in a bldy heartbeat!.... Would I stand up?.... That rhyms with..... "Not a Chook in France!!!!!

[shrek]

My patch up in southwest scotland is really in the middle of bumble f**k nowhere, 800 arces of peatland surrounded by forest, nothin apart from sheep and foxes ever goes over it.

I built a live catch fox trap some years back, a good friend of mine asked if he could borrow it as his mate who sheep farmed a patch close to mine was losin alot of lambs, describing them being torn apart. i was using the trap at the time so it never was used, however i spent alot of nights afterwards with the lamp on my patch looking an waiting,

then one night i had justed arrived walked up onto a high point looking over the whole area and lamped, all the sheep were off for lambing then suddenly a laser blue pair of eyes more blue in eyes than ive ever seen, appeared wided that a fox's eyes through the scope, it stared into the light for 2 to 3 seconds and vanished, It was over 400 yards away so i couldnt get a body shape but if it was a fox he would hav stopped at looked back at som point as there was half a kilometer from any woodland edge from the first sighting. It never showed again, i am certain that that was a big cat, i cannot prove it by any means, but its like somthing iv never seen before.

[Finman]

Hi guys,

 

could not some of the distant sightings of eyes and the like, as well as the presence of torn apart bodies in the field may also be attributed to feral dogs or even wolves? Wasn't there a pack in Scotland (albeit captive)?

 

Not disputing the sightings, just curious...

 

Finman

[shrek]

who knows whats out there to be honest, however i would of thought wolves would react alot more to the sqeek that we all use for foxes, who knows!! quite interesting thinking that these animals could be out here, and the amount of traming about the countryside all of us do how secretive these amimals must be, i want one taxidermied on the wall! haha