rimmie Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hi all, are these the same cartridge ? I've seen reloading dies and brass in each, but some internet sites say there the same cartridge.??? Yet some say there two completely different rounds ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 It is the same, thanks baldie !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Hi all, are these the same cartridge ? I've seen reloading dies and brass in each, but some internet sites say there the same cartridge.??? Yet some say there two completely different rounds ???The same.Remington produced a generic short,thin wall,small primer 308 case (much like the earlier wildcat 308 X1 1/2in Barnes ),and Mike Walker at Remington-a (BR shooter,trying to emulate the PPC)-standardised SAAMI dimensions for the 6 BR Rem in 1978,(there were probably earlier 'wildcat' differences around),and in 1988 Remington produced factory ammunition in 6BR Rem.(see also 22BR and 7BR,using the same basic ,generic brass) In 1996 ,Norma introduced the 6BR Norma chambering,virtually identical externally to the 6BR Rem case but with a longer neck (for the 'new' longer VLD target bullets).CIP (European equivalent of the American SAAMI) require a new name for any chambering (or cartridge) that differs from previous versions,hence the new name '6BRNorma'. New rifles are now chambered in 6BR Norma. No problem at all: use Lapua brass , headstamped 6BR Norma. (it's about all you are likely to see.) Gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 There is a slight difference See here http://www.6mmbr.com/6mmbr.html Slight difference in base dimensions and throat is longer on the Norma variant. The old 6BR was built to take on the 6ppc so suited to lighter bullets. Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 So if I get a 6mm br built, it would be 6mm br NORMA, but it doesn't really matter is that what we're saying ? I can just use off the shelf lapua 6mmbr brass and crack on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yes just use Lapua brass Mine I've just had from Neil is stamped 6mm BR Norma also the Lapua brass is head stamped 6mmBR Norma. Have fun it's a fantastic cartridge. Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks mate, I've spoken to baldie and a couple of other smiths, my friend has a tikka 595 22-250 left to him by his late father just sitting in his cabinet.i can have it a a very reasonable price, so I think il give it a go in the new year totally new calibre to me, but I've been living on the computer soaking up as much info as I can !! I already reload for my .223 so I have all the gear, but my press is only a lee turret, but it does the job. I might need to up grade it when I get a 6br die set. Are there any 6br users in kent I can glean done practical info off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Have a look here http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/8216-6mmbr-loads/ It may help a bit Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for that Dave very helpful just another question, I know most dies and presses have a universal thread,so I'm just going to keep my lee turret press and get some 6mmbr dies. My question is what dies am I best going for In terms of make ? I've seen some 3 die sets and there pretty expensive !! I'm just looking at a standard de capper, re sizer and bullet seater two die set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for that Dave very helpful just another question, I know most dies and presses have a universal thread,so I'm just going to keep my lee turret press and get some 6mmbr dies. My question is what dies am I best going for In terms of make ? I've seen some 3 die sets and there pretty expensive !! I'm just looking at a standard de capper, re sizer and bullet seater two die set.[/quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for that Dave very helpful just another question, I know most dies and presses have a universal thread,so I'm just going to keep my lee turret press and get some 6mmbr dies. My question is what dies am I best going for In terms of make ? I've seen some 3 die sets and there pretty expensive !! I'm just looking at a standard de capper, re sizer and bullet seater two die set.Have a look at the Forster two die sets,full length Or neck decap/sizer ,and seater around £65 a set;Redding will be £95.Either make come with some options for £more,like micro seaters ,bushing type dies,etc.Or a switch to hand dies like Wilsons,with an arbor press(£200 ish total) If you have not checked out Accurate Shooter 6BR site,have a look-covers most basics and advanced,US oriented wrt powders etc but relevant.If you are in an indulgent xmas mood,check out the Sinclair International catalog/on line for lots of goodies,which you don't need,yet,but also including the above dies. Gbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Thanks for that Dave very helpful just another question, I know most dies and presses have a universal thread,so I'm just going to keep my lee turret press and get some 6mmbr dies. My question is what dies am I best going for In terms of make ? I've seen some 3 die sets and there pretty expensive !! I'm just looking at a standard de capper, re sizer and bullet seater two die set. Nothing wrong with a lee press. I've had mine for years and cannot fault it at all. Cheaper than a lot of other presses and does the same job. Dies- now that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 I make fairly straight 6mmbr ammunition with my Lee classic cast iron single stage press and Redding dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finman Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Thanks ,, I've spoken to baldie and a couple of other smiths, my friend has a tikka 595 22-250 left to him by his late father just sitting in his cabinet.i can have it a a very reasonable price, so I think il give it a go in the new year totally new calibre to me, but I've been living on the computer soaking up as much info as I can !! I already reload for my .223 so I have all the gear, but my press is only a lee turret, but it does the job. I might need to up grade it when I get a 6br die set. Are there any 6br users in kent I can glean done practical info off ? Excellent donor rifle action!! Mine is built on a M590 (identical footprint to the M595) and it hits rabbits at 500+yards first shot! and is cycling a 5-round magazine no problem. Go for it!! You won't regret it! Best wishes Finman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowler Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Thanks for that Dave very helpful just another question, I know most dies and presses have a universal thread,so I'm just going to keep my lee turret press and get some 6mmbr dies. My question is what dies am I best going for In terms of make ? I've seen some 3 die sets and there pretty expensive !! I'm just looking at a standard de capper, re sizer and bullet seater two die set. i've got a set of redding dies. body die, comp seater and type s bushing neck die, if you're interested. 100quid posted i can send you pics if you want. nowler@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 i've got a set of redding dies. body die, comp seater and type s bushing neck die, if you're interested. 100quid posted i can send you pics if you want. nowler@hotmail.com Nowler i will take this die set off you PM me please -cheers tim - IF rimmie doesn't need them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsc1960 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Just seen a cooper 6mmbr single shot for sale on another forum, now that is a nice rifle. RSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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