ejg223 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 We were wondering how light we could get an E-Tac stock which was a great excuse for a new rifle. I preferred that my son Peter do the lay up on his own, as he is a perfectionist. Total weight of the E-Tac stock including the adjustable cheek and recoil pad is 828 grams (29.25 OZ). We found a Bartlein Barrel with medium Palma contour and left that at 24" as we can always cut it later. Action is standard remmy, lugs lapped, chambered and barrel fitted by Dominic Byrne of Dom's Custom Rifles Ireland. He also Ceracoated Barrel and action. Threading on the muzzle and crown is one of the best I have seen. Bolt Knob is in solid carbon fibre made by us. Colour is our new "Irish Mix". Rifle still needs bedding. 5 shot group 168 A-max, 14mm outside to outside. 308 Win edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer7 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I like the sound of that, amazingly light. How much for that particular stock? Can it be purchased with bottom metal included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxing2night Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Nice rifle and it shoots aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucraft Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Wow thats very light. Have you changed the texturing slightly? It might be the light but looks less aggressive than some others of yours I've seen. Have you weighed the whole rig with mod and Kahles? How does it balance out with so little weight in the stock and that 24' palma? ( I do like that contour) Nice work Edi. I'l be in touch shortly I hope, once my bottom metal turns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ Varminter Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Where the stock from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Where the stock from? One of Edi's own, attached his website. http://www.pse-composites.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Thanks for the replies so far, Farmer, in case you didn't get the pm, stock in standard production weight 950 -1100 grams as a Rem SA BDL runs 765,- Euro in carbon fibre as on the pic. Fitting of mag system is 250 Euro extra (for a provided and bedded mag system.) Trucraft, the stippling is "fine" in this case, but still very grippy. We can make the stippling none, fine, med, rough. I'll weigh the rifle in a weeks time when I'm back in Ireland. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ Varminter Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Price? CZ the stock in the pic is an experimental stock. We want to see if such a lightweight stock has any problems over time. Our production E-Tac stock which would be roughly 200 grams heavier would cost 765,- Euros as mentioned earlier. The Mag system costs extra. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyr Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Good job Edi! ( and Peter). Keep us posted on how the stock behaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Looks very good Edi, For me, i'd bring the barrel back to 20", would then be in keeping with the compact and lightweight nature of the build.. It sure shoots though - unbedded too. Its good to see more of your stocks coming through at comps, there was a guy at the egg shoot with one of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Ronin, the initial plan was to go 20". Just wanted to shoot at 24 for a while and possibly chop before the hunting season. We are getting good reports coming back, also from competitions. I thought you won the egg shoot, well done. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22/250 foxer Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Great post. Looks a cracking stock. I think if you done them for the m595 and m695 series of rifles you would do very very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Thanks foxer, actually we have had very little enquiries about older Tikka's. So far it would by far not have been worth it to manufacture moulds. We are planning a mould for an E-Tac with a T3 inlet as we are converting too many E-Tacs for the T3 these days. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaken Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 .......actually we have had very little enquiries about older Tikka's. edi I am surprised. Lots of folks having 590/595s rebarrelled and looking for alternative tactical style stocks. Myself included. I really like that you are able to keep the centre of gravity high. That must make it a joy to shoot :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz6br Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Very nice mate looks to be a shooter as well have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Thanks gaz6br, Oaken, the centre of gravity is very important, we are noticing more and more rifles being set up with this in mind. A light rifle that recoils straight back is a doddle to shoot. I threw the rifle and a few scopes on the scales today to see what she could be like for hunting. As she is with her 24" Palma barrel, 10 round mag and Kahles 624i with Badger rings she weighs 5105g / 11.2lbs : without scope 3860 g 8.5lbs The scopes I weighed all have rings on them, some have scope caps: Kahles 6-24x 56i 1245 grams Zenith 3-12x50 FD 888 grams Klassic 3-12x50 762 grams Vortex 6-24x50 ill ffp 749 grams Conquest 6.5-20x50 sfp 667 grams The ten round mag weighs about 100 grams more than a 5 round mag, and the 21.5mm barrel diameter at the muzzle chopped by 4 " will reduce weight by another 247 grams. so... with 5 rnd mag and barrel taken back to 20" rifle alone would be 3515grams or 7.7lbs In hill hunting set-up with Conquest scope she'd only make 9.2lbs. + the 7 oz moderator. Overall she will weigh an oz less than my sako hunting rifle with 22" Heavy sporter barrel PSE hunter carbon stock and also a 6.5-20 conquest on top. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Smut Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 As usual great work Edi. Beautifull rifles, with weight taken into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Thanks Hales, yesterday I fired a few rounds and measured speed as I am guessing this Bartlein has a tighter bore. Didn't get around measuring the twist yet but suspect 1/12 up to 1/14 which means 175gr could be border line? I only had 5 rounds left of the 175gr that worked well in my Mauser and tried to shoot a group as well as measure speed. First 4 shot were quite good but the last one I either pulled or it got wobbly? The 4 shots are on the right and the fifth one left on it's own. Does the fifth one look as if it went through slightly sideways? I have never had a rifle with stabilizing problems. Speed av was 2662fps. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun nut Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hi Edi, definitely not a round hole on the last shot, until i read the text i thought it was 2 shots, so suspect the same as you although a 1in 12 would stabilise that bullet usually, wouldn't it? Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hi Edi, definitely not a round hole on the last shot, until i read the text i thought it was 2 shots, so suspect the same as you although a 1in 12 would stabilise that bullet usually, wouldn't it? Regards Mike doesn't look round to me either, That cartridge shot very well out of my 20" 1/12 LW barrel even out to 400m. We did shoot at stones with the bartlein out to 400-500m and had good hits with this load but never put a target out. Might be the best to fire a ten shot group further out to see if some flyers appear and also measure real twist. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Measured the twist, seems to be slightly over 1/13, measured 13 ~1/8 several times both ways, could that be? edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted July 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 In the meantime Dominic Byrne chopped the barrel at 20" and re-crowned/threaded the barrel. A Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50 with lightweight mounts, 5 shot mag and 5 Baffle Delta Alu fitted. Total weight now at 4,4kg (9.7lb) with mod. or 4.2kg (9.2lb) without mod. Really happy with it and will be used for stalking coming season. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
223magic Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 As usual great work Edi. Beautifull rifles, with weight taken into consideration. Good UKV forum name he was a top notch spaniel.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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