T3 new shape

[ejg223]

Some feedback on our existing Howa and Remmy hunter/varmint style stocks

suggested that we re-think the shape of the but. Mainly critisised was

the large cut-out behind the pistol grip. Ergonomics where never critisised.

As we are just making a new mould for a Tikka T3, I thought we risk a few changes.

Without changing any ergonomics we drastically changed the shape. The monte carlo

type cheek was removed and a not so noticeable cheek angle was added both sides so

this stock will be 95% same for left or right handed. At a push I think we could also

re-work this stock for a left handed rifle.

 

Remmy/Howa Hunter/Varmint

 

Proposed Tikka T3 Hunter/Varmint

edi

[lancslad]

Giz a try..................

 

And being a lefty, I could really make your day............

 

Find the existing T3 stock a little too wide around the palm swell.

 

A higher cheek and slightly tapered front would be nice.

[Barrelsniffer]

Edi dont suppose you do any for tikka T3 with a thumbhole stock..cant find one anywhere and i mean anywhere..

 

Mick

[lancslad]

was just going to suggest that too mike...........

[brown dog]

Edi,

 

I'd recommend making it 100% ambi - why stop at 95% and still have right-hand stock?

I wouldn't buy an 'almost ambi' stock

 

[What pic rail do you have on that T3?]

[Streeker59]

Can you do one of these for £500 Edi ?

 

http://www.webshop.roedale.de/popup_image.php?pID=323&imgID=2

[ejg223]

Can you do one of these for £500 Edi ?

 

http://www.webshop.roedale.de/popup_image.php?pID=323&imgID=2

 

Not at the moment.

I had a look at that stock at the IWA and quite liked the shape.

Think the downside was one has to remove the cheek piece to get the bolt out.

 

We've come up with a method of faster prototyping and are already working on

a Tactical for a Rem 700SA with adjustalble cheek.

The same tac stock for a T3 could follow, although a few scream also for howa.

It will depend on how the market reacts to the hunter varmint stock once out and

then judge if the demand is higher for a tac T3 or Howa.

These can then also be offered in ultra light, we hope to offer a tac stock

weighing around 2 lbs with adjustable cheek piece.

 

Lancs, Micky

never understood the hype of a thumbhole, I think it is too slow

for hunting. An ergonomically well shaped hunting stock is I think better.

For now we have not planed a thumbhole. never say never....

 

 

Brown Dog,

the rail is a stainless roedale rail.

the missing 5% are just a slightly stronger palm swell on the right side.

This can easily be sorted before the grip stipling is applied.

Customer can choose.

edi

[Mash67]

Not at the moment.

I had a look at that stock at the IWA and quite liked the shape.

Think the downside was one has to remove the cheek piece to get the bolt out.

 

We've come up with a method of faster prototyping and are already working on

a Tactical for a Rem 700SA with adjustalble cheek.

The same tac stock for a T3 could follow, although a few scream also for howa.

It will depend on how the market reacts to the hunter varmint stock once out and

then judge if the demand is higher for a tac T3 or Howa.

These can then also be offered in ultra light, we hope to offer a tac stock

weighing around 2 lbs with adjustable cheek piece.

 

Lancs, Micky

never understood the hype of a thumbhole, I think it is too slow

for hunting. An ergonomically well shaped hunting stock is I think better.

For now we have not planed a thumbhole. never say never....

 

 

Brown Dog,

the rail is a stainless roedale rail.

the missing 5% are just a slightly stronger palm swell on the right side.

This can easily be sorted before the grip stipling is applied.

Customer can choose.

edi

hunt with a aics stock all the time.never found the thumbhole at all slow.bit heavy though

matt

[ejg223]

hunt with a aics stock all the time.never found the thumbhole at all slow.bit heavy though

matt

 

As you say the weight alone will slow it down.

But also the thumb to safety is a bit more awkward.

As is cycling the bolt fast.

I am thinking of driven game shooting as one disciplin

that a hunting stock must be good at.

edi

[Finman]

 

Proposed Tikka T3 Hunter/Varmint

 

Now, if you could make this left handed and inleted for actions such as the M590/M595, I would be your first customer...Go on! you know it makes sense!!

 

keep up the good work!

 

Finman

[Ronin]

Hi Edi

 

 

the T3 stock looks a little "slab" sided in the forend - it may be the angle of the camera or that there's no texture on the forend sides.

 

Just my perception.

 

 

I persoanlly prefer a 100% RH or LH stock,, with cheek piece - I apreciate that this would take another mould and the expense that goes with that.

 

 

The stocks look good, but my own view is that by making a "do all" some of the design has been a little watered down.

 

 

The first (top) pic of the Rem / Howa Hunter is spot on :D

[brown dog]

I persoanlly prefer a 100% RH or LH stock,, with cheek piece

 

Don't listen to him, he's one of those lopsided/non-ambidextrous mutants.

 

[Bambi-basher]

Sorry Edi

 

I have to agree with Andy, the stock looks a bit slab sided to me too. I think people buy after market stocks with more than one eye on aesthetics even if that compromises functionality to a degree.

 

I like the look of the Howa stock better.

 

Hope you don’t mine my critique.

 

ATB

 

Kev

[ejg223]

Thanks for the replies,

the forend and pistol grip on both stocks are identical, just we don't mould the stipling, it

gets added after moulding to customer spec. That's why the tikka prototype looks a bit drab,

the primer colour doesn't help either.

What interests me is how will it shoot, the howa & remmy stocks are nice to shoot prone

with a lightweight 308 and don't have any muzzle flip, but the tikka's but pad is the same size

just sits 10mm higher. My hopes are the stock will cope very well with heavy recoiling

rifles, or have acceptable recoil as a very light rifle. At least one could hopefully avoid a point load with

the top corner of the but pad recoiling into the shoulder like many others do.

Pity I only have a little 223 in the T3.

Learn by doing eh, got a few days left before we make up our mind and start on the mould.

 

 

edi

 

 

ps

 

Kev, Andy. I'm hunting with the howa and remmy stocks since early this year and

love them.... at the moment I also prefer the looks of these.

Then again, we have to take risks to learn new things.

[lancslad]

Thanks for the replies,

the forend and pistol grip on both stocks are identical, just we don't mould the stipling, it

gets added after moulding to customer spec. That's why the tikka prototype looks a bit drab,

the primer colour doesn't help either.

What interests me is how will it shoot, the howa & remmy stocks are nice to shoot prone

with a lightweight 308 and don't have any muzzle flip, but the tikka's but pad is the same size

just sits 10mm higher. My hopes are the stock will cope very well with heavy recoiling

rifles, or have acceptable recoil as a very light rifle. At least one could hopefully avoid a point load with

the top corner of the but pad recoiling into the shoulder like many others do.

Pity I only have a little 223 in the T3.

Learn by doing eh, got a few days left before we make up our mind and start on the mould.

 

 

edi

 

 

ps

 

Kev, Andy. I'm hunting with the howa and remmy stocks since early this year and

love them.... at the moment I also prefer the looks of these.

Then again, we have to take risks to learn new things.

 

You might not have............BUT I DO....................be it a lefty...

[ejg223]

Update on the T3 stock.

Mould is up and running, first ultra light carbon stock

popped out perfectly today. Weight will be under 700grams all in.

Hopefully have it sprayed and ready by mid next week.

 

edi

[17 Rem]

I'm in the minority on this, but it just looks too deep and 'slab sided' to me.

I do applaud the fact that you always seem to make the comb of your stocks as high as you can. If you inlet for the Tikka 595, I'd be in the market for three or four.

[ejg223]

Rem, I think the drab slab look is mainly because of the grey primer

and the missing stippling on the prototype.

 

We could always make a stock with channel inlet but without action inlet

if you have someone who can mill out to spec.

I made a stock like that for my sako L579.

edi