6.5CM

[Ralpharama]

Lots has been spoken about 6.5 Creedmore and there seem to be as many detractors as advocates of this oddly controversial calibre. I have just been through the agony of renewing my toy-ticket and asked them to add the 6.5CM to my wish list.

A good and knowledgeable friend considers them evil barrel burners with overly light projectiles, but with HME being frowned upon in so many quarters I wondered if having a less restricted rifle capable of distance would be advantageous. I have no money nor commitment other than the authority to buy one if my planned bank heist is successful 🤣 Were I to manage to get funds sufficient, without risking my freedom 🤣 and did decide to go down this root what suggestions do the panel have ?(as they used to say on Gardener’s Question Time; before the days of podcasts I used to listen to radio four in my printing workshop)🤣 I have a couple of Sabatti rifles that shoot way better then their pay grade, but when one wants to stick them in a lovely laminated stock it gets expensive- getting my .300WM stuck in a FormRifle stock cost me more than the original rifle (new). 

[Popsbengo]

6.5mm Creedmore is easy to get quality brass, in SRP or LRP, plenty of good loading data available.  As far as "light bullets"  I shoot 144gr Berger hybrids that are brilliant out to 1200yds (not tried further as yet).  Hornady do an excellent heavier bullet too.

Also the advantage of 144/140gr is it keeps the MV down a little and have longer bearing surfaces so less barrel wear (I believe but happy to defer to wiser counsel).

I shoot .338LM at over 1500yds but consider it a waste of ammo/money under that distance when I can get such excellent results from my 6.5CM

There are of course other 6.5mm calibres that are excellent too (same bullets).  Don't overlook the 6.5x55 Swede,  in a modern action they're superb.

[Scotch_egg]

1 hour ago, RV2 said:

6.5cm is a special. Excellent for 1600 or more. I also suggest .204 ruger I don't know why people overlook that beast.

Will you stop making ridiculous suggestions. 
 

1600 for a creedmoor and 1200 for a .20 cal not appropriate rounds for these distances. 

[Popsbengo]

1 hour ago, Scotch_egg said:

Will you stop making ridiculous suggestions. 
 

1600 for a creedmoor and 1200 for a .20 cal not appropriate rounds for these distances. 

Indeed

[gazzarM1]

Think he may have been extracting the Michael myself though he could have mentioned the ELR capabilities of 17 HMR

[Popsbengo]

1 minute ago, gazzarM1 said:

Think he may have been extracting the Michael myself though he could have mentioned the ELR capabilities of 17 HMR

sort of a ranging gun for a .338 ?  😉

[Richiew]

Another one for the 6.5:55 or maybe a.260 . Watch mr Ripleys videos 260 rips . A very accurate calibre. 
have fun 

[gazzarM1]

260 the way to go though it is not the commercial success that 6.5cm is purely in my book down to marketing or a lack thereof.

[Popsbengo]

54 minutes ago, gazzarM1 said:

260 the way to go though it is not the commercial success that 6.5cm is purely in my book down to marketing or a lack thereof.

that's an opinion not sustained by real-world experience outside of F Class fashion of the week

 

[gazzarM1]

Have owned a 260 for 15 years or more in various guises …many rounds gone down range bagged a few deer with it and nothing has convinced me to swap. 
Have rattled targets out to a lasered 1200 yds with 107 grain matchkings at Warcop witnessed by a current member of the F class team GB.

Not really an opinion…just solid evidence gained over many years and a good few thousand rounds

[Popsbengo]

Well good for you, no reason to rubbish 6.5CM as a "marketing" exercise is it?

[gazzarM1]

You are missing the point…I never dissed 6.5 cm as it is undoubtably a fine calibre .There is no doubt that good marketing has contributed largely to its success as in all the years I have owned the 260 I have only ever seen a couple of boxes of ammo on the shelf at a dealers .I bought one at such an exorbitant cost that I could only bring myself to  shoot 2 rounds off and the rest are still in the cupboard.If I-was going down the 6.5 route today I could well imagine a different outcome due to the availability…particularly as Lapua have just discontinued making 260 brass for the foreseeable future.

You could argue all day on ballistic differences as there is not a lot between them 

[Ralpharama]

Do the markets not just respond to demand? 
 

I’m not sure marketing comes into it. I do think, however, fashion does.

I have a friend who is massively knowledgeable, but really doesn’t like 6.5CM and as such none of his friends use 6.5CM, except maybe me, if I can find a ‘perfect’ gun fit for me ie not to much money, very beautiful and accurate. Yeah, I hate plastic stocks.

His main concern seems to be barrel life, which given the cost of barrels is not unreasonable. 

[gazzarM1]

Not certain whether marketing hype, the next Gucci calibre or availability was the key to it all.Hornady pushed it from the get go…Remington never seemed to bother as much.

I dare say it will happen again with another calibre…in the meantime does anybody know where I can get some new 260 brass? Need to stock up lol

[Triffid]

I've never heard the 6.5CM as a barrel burner before.

 

My RPR is a couple of thousand rounds to the good and still wearing the original factory barrel. It's been fed on diet of 140gn bullets at mid 2700 velocities.

I suppose I had better bore-scope it again.

Triffid

[Ralpharama]

33 minutes ago, Triffid said:

I've never heard the 6.5CM as a barrel burner before.

 

My RPR is a couple of thousand rounds to the good and still wearing the original factory barrel. It's been fed on diet of 140gn bullets at mid 2700 velocities.

I suppose I had better bore-scope it again.

Triffid

It was explained to me that it was as a result of the very high muzzle velocities, but 2700 is lower than I use with most of my rifles 🤔 

[Popsbengo]

11 hours ago, gazzarM1 said:

You are missing the point…I never dissed 6.5 cm as it is undoubtably a fine calibre .There is no doubt that good marketing has contributed largely to its success as in all the years I have owned the 260 I have only ever seen a couple of boxes of ammo on the shelf at a dealers .I bought one at such an exorbitant cost that I could only bring myself to  shoot 2 rounds off and the rest are still in the cupboard.If I-was going down the 6.5 route today I could well imagine a different outcome due to the availability…particularly as Lapua have just discontinued making 260 brass for the foreseeable future.

You could argue all day on ballistic differences as there is not a lot between them 

OK, clear to me now, thanks.