Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 There's "temporary" restrictions on any calibre above .308/7.62 on West Midlands & Wales MoD ranges. I'd be interested to understand what brought that about. https://nra.org.uk/temporary-restriction-mod-ranges-in-wales-and-west-midlands/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 DIO are not known to be reasonable in my experience. What might this mean to those members of clubs reliant on MoD ranges with regard to justification for holding large calibre firearms? I recall having a crazy discussion with DIO management over muzzle loading .44/.45 pistols being banned from Barrack Ranges as they were over range limits for calibre (never mind the fact you can shoot full power 9mm or even .762 rifle!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch308 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 This has also been applied to East Anglia as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 That implies a probable national DIO review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Hmmmmmm.....the police couldn't get a 50 cal ban via a frontal assault so collude to remove ranges and 'good reason' to own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave thorniley Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 you have hit the nail on the head dave t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I'm not a believer in conspiracies but I do admit it does look dodgy. Good job there's some non-MoD ranges approved for big stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Yes but how many of us are really going to be able to afford to travel many hundreds of miles and / or pay very high range fees to use them on any sort of regular basus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeB Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Let's not get paranoid, the restriction applies to all firearms in calibres greater than 7.62mm - so military and police users will not be able to use 9mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 How is that a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, GeorgeB said: Let's not get paranoid, the restriction applies to all firearms in calibres greater than 7.62mm - so military and police users will not be able to use 9mm. Not sure the ban applies to the military. I can't see why they would "shoot themselves in the foot" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I suspect this could have something to do with the wider field firing ban currently imposed on MoD ranges. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Mil were doing an arc of fire assessment across all MoD ranges. Once they’ve sorted it and agreed conditions/rules for all ranges, the ban will be lifted. Whatever is happening, let’s just hope it’s over very soon as my .338NM is itching for some more range time. I was hoping to be out on Rogiet and Sennybridge J3a soon...but this has put the kibosh on it for now 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Some in Offas' not having much luck these last few months ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Nope! 😤🤬😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Rogiet at 600 is hardly worth 338 ammo. I want Salisbury ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I agree that 600yds paper punching with a .338 is a bit of a waste of ammo. Living in the North (just) has it's advantages it seems! Eskdalemuir and back for a full day's shooting is manageable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch-22 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Rogiet is helpful for some load dev. Shortest range I have. As Sennybridge F is a FF range (so out of commission) and now J3a is too, I’ll take what I can get. Regardless of range, a .338 is always guaranteed to put a smile on your face. Point is though, the Mil are just being a bit of a pain. All very unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, Catch-22 said: Point is though, the Mil are just being a bit of a pain. All very unnecessary. Does seem so; but without understanding why they've gone down this route it's difficult to know if it's unnecessary I do hope there's a sensible reason and it's not just a bullshit exercise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One on top of two Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 A prime example of why I won’t waste my money on anything bigger than a .30 cal I hope this is not another twist of the knife for you boys with the larger cals. And I really do mean that sincerely, I may not have larger than a .308 for the range . But I do like to see the bigger stuff on my range days 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 You need to get to Eskdalemuir and use the range there Out to 2 miles and no calibre restriction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Would love to but its simply too far to be realistic for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 A bit hard on 7.92 Mauser shooters in historic arms rifles. Does it affect 303 too (it is a larger calibre even if only just than 7.62/308)? If so the MoD has banned the cartridge most of its ranges were built for and its own regular and reserve troops used for 70 years, the cadets a few more years longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Having dealt with them, I'd be most surprised to learn the MoD actually understood that a .303 (.311) was actually a greater diameter bullet than a .308/7.62 ! 7.92 Mauser bad; 30LM / 30Win Mag OK ?? Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Popsbengo said: Having dealt with them, I'd be most surprised to learn the MoD actually understood that a .303 (.311) was actually a greater diameter bullet than a .308/7.62 ! We'd better not tell them then. A bit of the Nelson blind eye touch maybe. Serious point though - it'll leave many 303 shooting MoD range users wondering if they can take their pieces of British and British Empire history to an MoD range. When people make 'technical' regulations, sometimes common sense is allowed to be applied to their interpretation, but that can't be taken for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popsbengo Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Don't tell 'um your name Pike! If I was RCOing at a military range I'd want to apply the Nelson touch to .303 and 7.92 Mauser but I suspect the consequences of getting 'caught out' by an audit might be too damaging to the club in the long run. If this turns into a permanent restriction I'd expect the NRA will champion the historic rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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