Mark Jones Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Can anyone reccomend an instruction book for novice/intermediate loading techniques. Dont need load ammounts as use manufacturers web pages but after proceedures, all types explained, Many thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeman Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Buy this...simple to understand and you will refer to it many times. https://www.amazon.co.uk/B-C-s-Reloading-Definitive-Novice-Expert/dp/1440213968/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481878179&sr=8-1&keywords=abc+of+reloading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Mark, you'll find most reloading manuals have a section in the front covering the different steps and techniques and will take you through the process step by step. Modern Reloading 2nd edition by Richard Lee was the first I used and found it very good but have also the 8th and 9th editions from Hornady, The Reloading manual from Speer and the excellent Berger Bullets Reloading manual. Choose any one and you won't go wrong. Also if you can find an experienced reloader in your locale to show you the process i'd recommend that. A couple of tips to get you started. Record everything that you do and be methodical in your approach. Be extremely careful not to mix up powders. Don't assume others reloading data is safe in your rifle - work up your own loads. There is a wealth of very experienced reloaders on the forum. If you have any doubts then ask, I'm sure someone here will have an answer or point you in the right direction. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 A book is fine......IF you grasp what it is describing beyond ANY doubt. When it gets down to setting headspace , cartridge oal etc you are well advised to get an experienced reloader to show you how to measure, what is safe/not safe (and WHY)....plus what tools and gauges you should use to keep you safe. Or take a reloading course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted December 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 A book is fine......IF you grasp what it is describing beyond ANY doubt. When it gets down to setting headspace , cartridge oal etc you are well advised to get an experienced reloader to show you how to measure, what is safe/not safe (and WHY)....plus what tools and gauges you should use to keep you safe. Or take a reloading course. Your so close I'd have to twist your arm! Have already done a bit but really like to understand each step and not just "that will do" as my mate showed me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 A book is fine......IF you grasp what it is describing beyond ANY doubt. When it gets down to setting headspace , cartridge oal etc you are well advised to get an experienced reloader to show you how to measure, what is safe/not safe (and WHY)....plus what tools and gauges you should use to keep you safe. Or take a reloading course. Why are you adding this to the mix?? If a person can read English and comprehend what they are reading, they can learn to reload safely from a book. It's really pretty darned simple if instructions are strictly adhered to. That's that's how millions of shooters learned. Additionally: How would a Novice know that what he was being shown by an 'experienced' reloader is safe?? I've been reloading for over 40 years but does that automatically mean I am 'safe'? Maybe. Maybe not.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggersqueezer Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Why are you adding this to the mix?? If a person can read English and comprehend what they are reading, they can learn to reload safely from a book. It's really pretty darned simple if instructions are strictly adhered to. That's that's how millions of shooters learned. Additionally: How would a Novice know that what he was being shown by an 'experienced' reloader is safe?? I've been reloading for over 40 years but does that automatically mean I am 'safe'? Maybe. Maybe not.~Andrew got to be honest i'm a visual hands on learner.wish i had someone to show me when i started .would have saved time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Why are you adding this to the mix?? If a person can read English and comprehend what they are reading, they can learn to reload safely from a book. It's really pretty darned simple if instructions are strictly adhered to. That's that's how millions of shooters learned. Additionally: How would a Novice know that what he was being shown by an 'experienced' reloader is safe?? I've been reloading for over 40 years but does that automatically mean I am 'safe'? Maybe. Maybe not.~Andrew Eveyone has a right to an opinion......would you have learned to drive just by reading or does instruction help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Abc book of reloading and Berger reloading book on route, a bit of Christmas reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Drop me a pm if anything not clear post-readup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Drop me a pm if anything not clear post-readup. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadcenter Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 And if something doesn't quite make sense, or if you're not sure about anything......... don't hesitate to ask about it. Sounds obvious, but It's better to feel a bit daft sometimes than risk hurting yourself or anyone around you. Lots of helpful people on here with a ton of experience and knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillo Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'm with Andrew on this one. I can show someone very close to me how to do something and it's forgotten equally as quickly. Tell that person to read the manual, and if he/she does, it ain't forgotten. I respect that everyone is different but the way I used to study (and still do) is to speed read the subject, re-read it and write down key points. Just doing that drives it home. The manuals Mark has ordered are top notch. Use those in conjunction with post-its and all will be well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 First silly question. I'm going to do a ladder test for a new load. Do I length to saami length then shoot different charge weights or do I measure a round in my chamber and back off? If so how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillo Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 This is a bit like "how long is a piece of string." I usually measure chamber size, then make rounds at 15 thou off the lands. Once I've got the best group at the optimum charge weight (OCW) at the approximate velocities I need I'll start playing with seating depth. But that's the way I do it and it works for me. Others may do it differently . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 This is a bit like "how long is a piece of string." I usually measure chamber size, then make rounds at 15 thou off the lands. Once I've got the best group at the optimum charge weight (OCW) at the approximate velocities I need I'll start playing with seating depth. But that's the way I do it and it works for me. Others may do it differently . Thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeman Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 You're loading for .223? Just the way I start off: Load to Sammi spec case length with lowest powder charge weight (or thereabouts) given in manual and, also bullet seated at recommended depth for your choice of bullet (also from manual)...Increase powder charge by .3g and note each bullets' point of impact until you shoot a group which you are happy with (relatively tight) .. So for a general, simplistic example: 4 rounds of starting load = 20g powder with bullet seated at 2.250 OAL ..shoot at a target and check for group size 4 rounds of 20.3g powder with bullet seated at 2.250 OAL....shoot at different target and check for group size 4 rounds of 20.6g powder with bullet seated at 2.250 OAL...shoot at another different target and check that group size and so on................. So......... 8 target spots x (multiplied) by 4 rounds each of incremental charge-weights = (equals)......... 32 rounds to test fire for best group size Then I will take the best 2 group sizes and load them again and shoot those loads again on another day. Check again and see if groups are pretty much as good as when you fired them on you initial test As soon as I believe I got a decent and consistently accurate load I'll only then play around with seating depth (if I need to) ..from there it can continue on to a host of other things to test; but don't go there just yet I was always told to "keep it simple"...That's just one way to start you off but there are quite a few other ways too - each to their own and whether it be the right way or the wrong way that's the way I do it and, it works for me (and when you find out that you don't have a good group, you do it all over again with a different combo) Arrghhhhhhhhh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow Juice Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I have found the Lyman manual to be one of the better basic manuals for beginners. The Speer and Sierra manuals are better for someone with a little experience but would also be good for a beginner. Of course there is a wealth of information on the net. I started with a Lyman manual in 1974 and I still pull it out occasionally. So when ever they offer a new addition I usually buy one. I use a lot of Speer bullets and Hornaday bullets because they were always readily available in this part of the US. So over the years I have used the Speer manual as my go-to. I've never cared for the Hornaday manual but not for very good reasons . A few years ago I got a Sierra manual and it is really laid out well for someone with a lot of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.