supergnome Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Can you still directly buy a gun stock from the USA or do you have to go through an importer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWShooter Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Can you still directly buy a gun stock from the USA or do you have to go through an importer? Google Boyds stocks , Ive bought direct from them , no issues , no import duty (I was lucky to get away with paying no duty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeman Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 SG, You'll only know for sure by asking the manufacturer directly as each one seems to have their own interpretation of the regs and whether there're prepared to ship direct. At one time or another I've bought stocks off Elk Ridge, Richards Microfit, Bill Shehane, Steve Mcgee, Shurley Bros and Alex Sitman (Masterclass Stocks) and it was only the latter that required me to use a registered arms exporter. The only one that declined point blank was PRT although they were very courteous as most are and the only one that refused to even acknowledge my emails was John Hoover as if corresponding with an 'alien' was going to get him hauled before the Grand Jury. Most of the above were small scale operations making target stocks, rather than mass market sporting replacements. To be honest, I wouldn't even bother these days importing direct with Joe West making their own range plus bespoke items. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergnome Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Boyds said yes and BASC told its ok so I will order. $174. Thanks for the help. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Jefferies Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Boyds have always been great to deal with, however they wouldn't export any stock over $100 before shipping costs. May be worth making sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergnome Posted September 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Order taken at $99. Now the 3-4 weeks wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmarksman9870 Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Redhawkrifles google them i have had 2 from him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971silversurfer Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Redhawkrifles google them i have had 2 from him... I emailed redhawk, all exports on hold as stocks getting caught up in customs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmarksman9870 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yea my stocks was in customs but i got them a few days after... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1in9 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Had a T3 stock turn up from Boyd's this morning £112 + £20 customs fees (of which £10 was Parcel Force handling). She's a beaut. I have their thumbhole stocks on most of my rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergnome Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 How long did it take ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971silversurfer Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yea my stocks was in customs but i got them a few days after... Apparently now on the US side of the pond too with orders going missing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1in9 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 How long did it take ???? About 3 weeks for Boyds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1in9 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Most boyds stocks are priced at $99 specifically to make them lower than a US $100 export exemption on certain parts which covers stocks (as long as they don't have the word Tactical in the name). Their postage rate covers actual price + postage in the eBay style, as they have been at $99 for years! So, certain items below $100 don't need a license. Stocks over $100 order value would need an export license, so realistically would need to come through an importer. If Red Hawk Rifles have been shipping their 'well over $100' stocks without a specific export license they would be impounded if stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergnome Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Ordered mine on the 15th Sept and today 09.30am, it has just cleared Heathrow customs. Just hope it don't go via RM or it'll be another week and pay again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Boyds have now put their prices up, $129 for a basic stock now so no more exports from them unless on special offer for under £100 Edgars are alleged to have done the deal to import Boyds so bang goes the source of good quality budget priced stocks. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Boyds have now put their prices up, $129 for a basic stock now so no more exports from them unless on special offer for under £100 Edgars are alleged to have done the deal to import Boyds so bang goes the source of good quality budget priced stocks. Ian. Yes, that is correct. I emailed Boyds last week to ask why they had increased prices so quickly to a point that it stopped individual imports, I was told I should contact either Edgar Brothers or Sportsman Gun Centre - sadly that another door closed on a decent product at a very affordable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supergnome Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Mine arrived today!!! Must be one of the last ones . Aren't Edgar Bros wonderful, importing them for us shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 It will be amusing to see what they charge for a $99 stock we have all been ordering and paying for from the US on our own for years. I must have had ten or so over that time and they usually ended up costing £120-130 to my door. I will open the bidding at £250, what is anyone else's best guess? SYSS also used to import Boyd kit and that was double the price, The septics are just hopeless and love their security laws so yet another modest product will become pointlessly expensive. Oscart Haugen at GRS will be rubbing his hands together. The Boyd stock was cheap for a reason and as it gets closer to half the GRS price, Hmm, that's an easy one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I spoke to Edgar Bros last week, I was told the plan was to be retailing the Boyds range for around £130-£140 in the UK, these would need to be ordered via the retailers. As of last week EB hadn't put in the big initial order yet and they were looking at Feb 2016 before they would have a decent stock and be advertising nationally. If those prices turn out to be correct then I could live with that as getting them from the US used to cost me £125 after customs charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 We live in hope. I am very sceptical though. Its a shame that they didnt do this and have them CNC inlet for AI mag compatible bottom metal when I started doing it 6 years ago. Rem700 would have sold like hot cakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 We live in hope. I am very sceptical though. Its a shame that they didnt do this and have them CNC inlet for AI mag compatible bottom metal when I started doing it 6 years ago. Rem700 would have sold like hot cakes. I guess we dont know what lies ahead Hatzi, as individual buyers I guess Boyds had zero interest in the UK market needs, hopefully they may listen to the requests of an importer a little better, time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun nut Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I doubt it Al, I used to have a ChryslerJeep franchise, the UK market was 20,000 vehicles a year, or .2% of CJ's annual production. You can imagine the amount of influence the UK Importer had on product decisions. I would think the numbers will be diferent but percentage wise I think the whole UK market is probably equivalent to a small to medium sized US retailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 nice point,gun nut. Here is the Under Assistant West Coast Sales Promotion man : "Well,we sold more in Bismark,than Europe". "Bismark?" "Yeah,I had to look it up myself-apparently it's in Nebraska". That is not to deny that some US companies are very good indeed on sales support etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorg Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I have watched this thread with great interest, as some will know I help Joe run Joe West Riflestocks. We have never been able to compete with Boyds as the cost of the raw laminate was always half the total cost of a Boyds stock. A few things come to mind firstly why have Boyds had a 30% price increase try that with any business and see what happens. Is there really enough money in Edgars selling a stock at £140 bearing in mind both they and your retailer has to make a profit ? We at Joe West have now developed a system to make the laminate at a viable cost which has better colour saturation and is denser than Rutlands was. We also have a dedicated cnc machine set for producing riflestocks. The problem we have is although boyds stock shapes are very simple and easy and quick to make, every action needs a slightly different stock shape, try fitting a ford engine in a Vauxhall. We could spend the time and get all the action inlets and various stock shapes on the cnc machine but how many would we really sell, would we ever recoup our investment, could we sell 20 a week to make it worth while. Same old story the British market just is not big enough to be viable, abit sad really but we are better off sticking with kitchens as our main business and making a few F class stocks as a side line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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