Mik Mak Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have just spoken to a Gentleman at the Brownells stand at IWA, he and the overseas customers Director both told me that once Brownells UK is up and running properly, in approx 4 weeks, they will no longer be taking orders from UK customers direct!!! I asked about the current trade accounts and was told they would no longer be serviced from USA and all purchases would have to come from Brownells UK He did say I wasn't the first person to bring the matter to their attention!!! He carried on talking as I walked away in disgust, I hope he got my point?? Cheers Mik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFD Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Can't say I'm surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finman Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 why were they in the IWA then? If they are not going to service (efficiently and competitively that is) UK/european customers, what's the point of them being here? I hope we vote with our feet and send them packing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106uk Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 The Brownells (UK) site has been up and running for several weeks, all links to the Mdway (UK) site are re-directed to it. Unfortunately it's the same overpriced drop shipping system as before with pot luck on the delivery of your orders, several users on another forum have reported waiting weeks for orders and others having orders "lost". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Please leave comments on what you thing about Brownells here: Accurate Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Done I noted your remarks on the Accurate shooters forum.Just wondering how it's their loss if you have all Sinclair goods on the shelf? Under this deal Sinclair now part of Brownells will no longer supply you via the US? Just a thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Still getting stuff ok dave and most of the sinclair products are on the shelf here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Still getting stuff ok dave and most of the sinclair products are on the shelf here Thanks Mark, my point was is you may have them now but shortly they will cease trading direct with the UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967spud Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 i stand corrected Dave it is now an issue we have to go through the UK site as per a quick phone call check just now oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971silversurfer Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I've personally never used Brownells but used Midway regularly. We should Look for European alternatives wherever possible and let Brownells/Midway/Whoever lose all of their UK trade/International trade.....surely its time we voted with our wallets? Why should we pay for a order processing department, passing our orders to another order processing department in the US- a total waste of money? All the orders I ever received from Midway UK were shipped direct from the US as not held in the UK so its not as though we were paying for additional warehousing facilities. If we vote with our wallets we may encourage some of those fantastic small engineering companies within the UK to diversify into shooting related products....We can only wish!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 How about a new LR competition class. Only Euro products allowed... rifle/ barrel, ammo etc. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971silversurfer Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 How about a new LR competition class. Only Euro products allowed... rifle/ barrel, ammo etc. edi Bugg**ed without dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisserge Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Fantastic idea Eddi, it's a very viable option already in terms of factory offerings (for stalking etc), but to push the euro scene in the same way for custom made comps would be a great opportunity to show boat 'our' work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Sadly there will never be enough trade for UK/Europe based companies to develop and supply the range of products available in the US. Although Midway and now Brownell's will always be my last resort, they are needed for certain things where a UK supplier doesn't exist and a UK importer can't justify the cost of licencing. If we lose Brownell's we'll also lose a lot of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 What you forget is we can also supply the US and a large part of the rest of the world while supplying Europe. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 With missiles and fighter jets maybe but just one small startup company with a great product that doesn't already have a dozen competitors made in the US is a pipe dream, let alone enough of them to make US companies redundant for UK shooters. Also, have you seen the stupid US import regulations on most things, let alone firearm related things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971silversurfer Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 With missiles and fighter jets maybe but just one small startup company with a great product that doesn't already have a dozen competitors made in the US is a pipe dream, let alone enough of them to make US companies redundant for UK shooters. Also, have you seen the stupid US import regulations on most things, let alone firearm related things. From me,you do have some valid points and agree we wont force US companies under, but taking my point further as an example look at the worldwide production of rifle barrels. We have 2 new and a possible third if rumours are correct in the UK. Rifle components, triggers, actions and rifle stocks being made sometimes by craftsmen who have diversified. The production runs may be small but they are maintaining quality of product by remaining small. What I have not included in this is the specialist European and Scandinavian markets which have a vast array of product in addition to those within the UK itself. I guess we tend to look towards the US markets primarily because of the common language....Look at powder shortages how did we do without US supplys?....we bought European and Scandinavian.....just thinking outside the box that's all. What I am saying is we should support these alternative companies where possible. These companies have business plans like most businesses and i'm sure their backers would not support them if those business plans were flawed? Europe has some of the finest toolmakers in the world please give them the encouragement they need not knock them before they try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCetrizine Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I agree, the best firearms in the world have always been European and often British. At the moment though there are few choices of gun food and furnishings outside of the US. Diversity of products is driven by demand and I just don't think there will ever be the demand in Europe. I think it was a Hornady rep at the shot show a couple of years ago who said they sell more bullets in Louisiana per month than they do in the UK in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 As soon as we produce a better product at a reasonable price things can change. The percentage of US imported powders in Germany for example is dropping rapidly. Mostly by choice as there are very good Euro alternatives available. In the meantime between the UK and Germany I don't think there is a need for any US custom actions (maybe the NZ Barnard) and with some stocks technology wise I know we are ahead...just not with the vast range yet. We now also have a Euro rem 700 clone with a good (better) barrel at a similar price to a US rem 700. Bit by bit things are changing. I know that the US import drives Lothar Walther around the bend when they send barrels over. We tried the official way and were halted when we could not provide a calibre for a stock we wanted to send. The little old lady at the post office sends them without calibre....and they arrive safely. In some cases it might even be interesting to manufacture in the US for the US market. Lower manufacturing costs at least. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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