Elliott Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 With a £550 max budget which would you choose and why? So far I'm looking at the following and on the verge of buying the Vortex - Meopta Meopro 6-18x50 - Zeiss Conquest 6-20x50 - Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Winmag Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 +1 for the Vortex Great scope for the money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Vortex. Zeiss has a little better glass, but no UK warrantee. and your probably going to be buying second hand with the conquest.. rather than a new Vortex ATB S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Vortex - got one, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Zeiss Conquest is in a totally different league optically...in any light conditions. I have three Conquest, had Vortex binos and a ffp 6-24 scope. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzi Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Mechanically Vortex are good but Optically fairly average. The Meopta is optically better but mechanically a bit limited the US zeiss conquest is a bit of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Zeiss Conquest is in a totally different league optically...in any light conditions. I have three Conquest, had Vortex binos and a ffp 6-24 scope. edi Is it really that much better edi because if it really is in a different league then I will go with the Zeiss. Is it a rigmarole sending scopes back to the USA for warranty repairs is it straight forward enoygh? I guess Zeiss would cover postage and insurance?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0rks2much Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 +1 for the Vortex, got one and love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Something which in my opinion s highly significant is Vortex's absolutely bomb-proof warranty. I currently own two Vortex riflescopes and a spotting scope, I'll undoubtedly by Vortex again. I also own S&B, Zeiss, Swarovski and Minox - while Vortex doesn't match up to the best German optics, for day use they are very good with superb mechanics, and fantastic value at the price, remember a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP is only 25% of the cost of an S&B PMII 5-25 scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 The warranty on the Vortex really should not be overlooked. For £540 you won't get a better deal on a scope capable of shooting way past what you are. I have one and Ive also experienced the warranty procedure via Riflecraft. I was very happy with my 6-24 PST then all of a sudden it was losing zero. I sent it back on the Monday, got a call on Thursday afternoon telling me a new scope was in the post, it arrived Friday morning. Its not a Zeiss or Swaro in terms of glass quality or low light performance but its a very useable optic that tracks well, Ive dialled it from one end to the other in both directions and it came back to zero. For long range varminting which mainly happens in decent light its well worth the money. Yes I would rather have a NF, PM2 or one of the others in that league but they don't come for £540 with lifetime guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I have a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP MOA EMB-1 on my .300 WSM Tikka T3 - now we're not talking about a sweet-shooting .223 or .260 Rem, yet it takes the .300 WSM recoil easily. The scope tracks well and is regularly shot out to 600X and will be shot to 1200X in the Spring. As I said above it's not up to my German/Austrian scopes optically, but for daytime shooting it's not an issue. The mechanics on Vortex scopes are superb as is the finish. BTW I bought it direct from Riflecraft and received superb service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Is it really that much better edi because if it really is in a different league then I will go with the Zeiss. Is it a rigmarole sending scopes back to the USA for warranty repairs is it straight forward enoygh? I guess Zeiss would cover postage and insurance?.. I have not had a case yet where a Zeiss scope had to be sent back to the US. I don't know how that will work, guess just stick it into the post. Optically there is a big difference. Also what I don't understand is that the reticle is not self centring on that particular Vortex I had. Like on vintage German scopes the crosshair wanders off centre if one moves windage or elevation to one side....that is really yesterday... In the US the Vortex is similar price to a Zeiss Conquest. What I did like was the reticle on the 6-24x50 ffp Vortex, thought it was one of the nicest I had used so far. Since I shoot mostly at bad light I prefer the Zeiss or other Euro glass. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ Varminter Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 If I have the money available at the British shooting show this year I will be purchasing vortex optic, depending how much I have either the gen 1 razor HD, or a PST 6-24. It will be in Ebr 2 ret on both mind. I love my vortex range finder, and whe. They produce a new bino rf combo, would certainly look t those two. The razor HD glass is lovely glass. Vortex all the way mate. CZV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian 1 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I have a zeiss conquest and can't fault it, it tracks flawlessly has excellent glass, very lighweight and is affordable 4 scopes.com will ship to the UK. Don't be put off by the price, here in Europe the Zeiss factory produces around 60 scopes/week where as in the states they will sell 100,000's and economies of scale come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I have a zeiss conquest and can't fault it, it tracks flawlessly has excellent glass, very lighweight and is affordable 4 scopes.com will ship to the UK. Don't be put off by the price, here in Europe the Zeiss factory produces around 60 scopes/week where as in the states they will sell 100,000's and economies of scale come into play. A good scope - but well over Elliotts budget. The 6.5-20x50 is selling for around $900 (£574) Then add on the postage and not forgetting the sting of import duty/ tax. That's going to be another £150 on top - going to cost about £700 - £750 by the time he gets it. And still with no warrantee. ATB S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 A good scope - but well over Elliotts budget. The 6.5-20x50 is selling for around $900 (£574) Then add on the postage and not forgetting the sting of import duty/ tax. That's going to be another £150 on top - going to cost about £700 - £750 by the time he gets it. And still with no warrantee. ATB Not necessarily, there's a new one for sale that I know about for £530.. what you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW58 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Still no UK warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banus02 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 HI,ZEiSS may be good BUT try to get them repaired its a joke .my colleague, s scope coating peeled/cracked off when the scope was six months old and was sent through the gun shop back and had 20months of agro and legal to get it sorted good glass ,very poor customer service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Not necessarily, there's a new one for sale that I know about for £530.. what you think? Elliott. They are a good scope - lovely clear optics. But having no warrantee worries people rightly so I know the conquest your thinking about on SD - That's a great price for a great scope - but the lack of warrantee probably explains why it hasn't sold. My shooting buddy had a 6.5-20 conquest that wouldn't hold zero - Zeiss UK wouldn't touch it and Zeiss US said it was chargeable work - The repair with postage cost about £200 ( ish from memory) and about 2 months without the scope. Ya pay ya money - ya takes ya chances. If you want something EXTRA special - have a look at the Meopta 6-24x56 that's in the for sale section - Optics to rival S&B and built like a brick out house..... A lot more than you want to spend though ATB S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Shotgun Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Can anybody recommen a great scope for a Tikka T3 Super Varmint in .204cal. I heard that Nightforce scopes are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggersqueezer Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Can anybody recommen a great scope for a Tikka T3 Super Varmint in .204cal. I heard that Nightforce scopes are great nightforce are great but ,204 so i'm thinking hunting rig rather than target.so i think a nice leupold (much cheaper better glass)great in low light etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbal Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 +1 Like NF,as toptarget scopes- but needlessly heavy in lb and £. I like Leupold 8-25 with varmint reticule for field use. But there is plenty sensible good glass choice. Think likely ranges for cartridge....it won't be 1000y,or even half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Got recommended a Sightron pick one up second hand for that budget. I've got S&B PM11 25x56 a Lupe and now 5 Sightrons because there the best value scope with exalant custermer service. Had a play at the end of the day last wk and the S&B a little longer than the Sightrons at 200y the Lupe was first to lose sight of the fence post I was looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Vortex Viper 6-24x50 PST Review: https://youtu.be/ZN8-SUaMKQA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s8mdevo Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 +1 vortex, have three different models PST 6-24x50 and two HST's 4-16 and a 6-24, they are all cracking scopes. Not as good as the Zeiss or Swaro in low light but for a third the cost you wouldnt expect them to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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