triggersqueezer Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 what do you guys prefer for powder, beam or digital? i'm using digital at the moment but wonder if i'm on the right track .its certainly easier.seems accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat69 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I use a auto dispencer and finish with a beam scale. First I dial in 1/10gr below charge wanted and then use beam and a powder trickler to finish it off and the exact load. Also I seat the bullet while I am waiting for the dispencer to finish so it's also pretty efficient time wise. You can't beat the beam scale for consistency and Accracy of measuring your powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagernoskill Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 See TargetMaster system Accurate to 0.02 grains on overage * tested over 40 throws measured on lab scale Transportable Handles all powder types Made in UK Alan is Great bloke and sales and after service is top notch I have done 3000 rounds on mine all Fclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Personally I prefer digital, you just have to try and reduce any factors that can cause Inaccuracies (warm up time, strip lighting, overloaded power sockets, mobiles etc.) I use the Chargemaster and given the volume of rifle cartridges I reload find it accuate and extremely effective in terms of time and convenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Tuned RCBS 10-10 and Targetmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcampbellsmith Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I prefer digital. I had an Acculab 123 and while it was being serviced, replaced it with a GemPro 250. Both do a very good job. Throw light and trickle up. Also very handy for sorting my Remington 260 Rem brass by weight as the brass has a >5 gr range. Regards JCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Acculab 123 - throw light with Harrell and trickle up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 Ohaus Dial a Grain beam. Unbeatable for the last 40 years.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That bald headed Geordie Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 Acculab 123 - throw light with Harrell and trickle up. Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoEntry Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 Tuned RCBS 505 RCBS Uniflow and Targetmaster for me. Sold my digital scales a automatic dispenser. I find old scholl faster and More accurate. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Acculab 123 - throw light with Harrell and trickle up. A question, and I'm not trying to be a smart aleck. If you're going to throw light and trickle, why the Harrell? Or did you happen to have the Harrell and so that's what you use? I have considered a Harrell but I have an ancient Seeley Masker competion measure that will toss coarse stick to .3 either way. (Finer powder will be too close to merit weighing, depending on the powder) I just don't know if I can better that unit. For charges I'm going to trickle, like my 308 target loads, I have a cheap Lee measure permanently set to toss light.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter79 Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Currently use the RCBS Charge master 1500 set up and finish with RCBS 1010 scales, although i would like to give the Target Master a whirl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That bald headed Geordie Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 A question, and I'm not trying to be a smart aleck. If you're going to throw light and trickle, why the Harrell? Or did you happen to have the Harrell and so that's what you use? I have considered a Harrell but I have an ancient Seeley Masker competion measure that will toss coarse stick to .3 either way. (Finer powder will be too close to merit weighing, depending on the powder) I just don't know if I can better that unit. For charges I'm going to trickle, like my 308 target loads, I have a cheap Lee measure permanently set to toss light.~Andrew Answer - The Harrell will not give the absolute accuracy of plus or minus 0.02 of a grain that I want to achieve on my loaded round, so I need to throw 'light' and trickle up. There is not one powder thrower on earth that will give the absolute accuracy that some shooters now want for long range competition (or even plinking/varminting etc). Unless someone can prove otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Answer - The Harrell will not give the absolute accuracy of plus or minus 0.02 of a grain that I want to achieve on my loaded round, so I need to throw 'light' and trickle up. There is not one powder thrower on earth that will give the absolute accuracy that some shooters now want for long range competition (or even plinking/varminting etc).Unless someone can prove otherwise. I agree to a very large extent about accuracy but my point is, given the desire or necessity to throw light, why a measure like a Harrell VS something cheaper? Or, as I was asking, did you buy the Harrell with higher expectations and now use it to dump light because this is simply the measure you now have at hand?~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Target master for me and a rcbs scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That bald headed Geordie Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 I agree to a very large extent about accuracy but my point is, given the desire or necessity to throw light, why a measure like a Harrell VS something cheaper? Or, as I was asking, did you buy the Harrell with higher expectations and now use it to dump light because this is simply the measure you now have at hand?~Andrew I purchased the Harrell thinking that it would be the most accurate of throwers to suit my reloading at the time, and it was as I did not trickle up. However, as I got more into long range competition and wanted consistancy with Mv etc, it was pretty obvious that it became necessary to trickle up. I guess I could have sold it, and just used a more basic thrower, but didn't. You could say it is an overpriced thrower but I will still use it. Good shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 That's what I figured, thanks. I'm in the same boat. I have that SM Comp measure and it does almost well enough but not quite. I have been offered money for it but I have had it since the mid eighties and I like it. I was using it as a high priced dumper but then decided that for 308 -the one and never changing load I trickle daily- I'd set up the Lee and free the SM for other duties. It was just more convenient that way.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I throw with a Harrell and trickle up, I use the Harrell because I have it but any powder dispenser would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro6.5 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 How do you go about tuning your RCBS scales? Do you do it yourself? what's the proses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I have one load that I dump using a Lee Dipper as it is just a tweak under weight. I guess no one with any sense buys a precision measure with the intent to just get close!~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MH Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 How do you go about tuning your RCBS scales? Do you do it yourself? what's the proses? Sent mine to Scott Parker in the USA, 1066 on may be able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagernoskill Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Sent mine to Scott Parker in the USA, 1066 on may be able to help. From the outset of F-class endeavours I have been lucky to use the Targetmaster system. I had purchased a standard Redding No 2 scale to use in conjunction with the TM. I thought it was pretty good but the more I used it the more I came to realise that the scale was the weakpoint in the process, Anyway after some reviewing some websites and some discussions with Allan (1066) I realised that a thing called a "tuned beam scale" existed. So after the Euro's I spoke to Alan and he produced a deluxe tuned scale... RCBS 5-0-5 with a USB camera . And I have been using it and I cannot properly articulate or explain the scale of the improvement. It takes a great system and makes it brilliant! The scale is much smoother and you can just feel the balance and it just stops perfectly! I don't have the hooks and judders that randomly affected the standard Redding scale. Alan had calibrated it for me. I loaded about 150 round in the past 3 weeks and was extremely happy with its overall improvement and the fact that over 40 tested charges the average throw was within 0.01 of the target charge! BUT tonight ... well I was so impressed as I loaded some test rounds just now .. that I stopped loading to come and post this report! I set it for 46.0 and threw 3 charges - my Lab scale ... shows 3 x 46.0 I set it for 47.0 and threw 3 charges - my Lab scale ... shows 3 x 47.0 I set it for 48.0 and threw 3 charges - my Lab scale ... shows 3 x 48.0 I set it for 48.5 and threw 3 charges - my Lab scale ... shows 3 x 48.5 Based on what I have seen I would happily take that Beam scale to a range and throw a charge as set my the beam scale and totally trust it! Calibration, precision, repeatable and portable! World class product - Alan - World class! ENS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun nut Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Harrell and a 10-10. Last I checked gravity doesn't change, unlike battery power, electric supply, and computers!No disrespect to the digital guys, I just don't trust them. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Egg cup with a sharpie line on it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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