Mossy-dog Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 What would you reccomend for a .22-250 of the above? Thinking about 5 - 20 ish magnification To be used in daylight for foxes, corvids rabbits etc at decent range not really dusk etc. Basically looking for very dependable dialing etc. Weight not an issue (going on an AICS) Boss is looking at the PM2 but i have mentioned nightforce as a good option so the cost isnt impartant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan534 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 PM2 if you have cash, owned both and the Nightforce is good, but the PM2 has the edge specially from the optical point of view, (subjective to my eyes anyway, everyone is different) eye relief is also better on PM2. Turrets are better on PM2. There are a fair few PM2 users in the north wales area too . What would you reccomend for a .22-250 of the above? Thinking about 5 - 20 ish magnification To be used in daylight for foxes, corvids rabbits etc at decent range not really dusk etc. Basically looking for very dependable dialing etc. Weight not an issue (going on an AICS) Boss is looking at the PM2 but i have mentioned nightforce as a good option so the cost isnt impartant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 If money's not an issue, PM2 without a shadow of doubt. (In addition to Dan's comments, FOV is also significantly wider than NF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit fingers Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 yep, agree with above posts. Nightforce are ok( I've had 3) but find the PM11 much more user friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossy-dog Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Thought that might be the case but i think that the nightforce might now get the nid for fiscal reasons! Not in North Wales now, residing in North Yorkshire instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnery Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 smit is better option of the two scopes mentioned if money is no problem but if you are only using the scope in daytime untill dusk nothing wrong with nightforce but for all round shooting go for the smit every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 For the conditions you describe get a second hand nightforce between £800-£900 Yes the schmidt has brighter glass but you won't have any problems shooting varmints out to 1k yards with he nighforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 MB, If application is as stated it does not warrant doubling the price. Nighforce are pretty dependable, nice easy turrets, have the magninfication range you are looking for. Only draw back is the way the whole eye pice rotates when dialing mag and the limimted FOV. If you can live with these (not exactly deal bereakers) then NF more than up to task. Low light then they are very lacking. BTW have owned and used both makes. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I'm the same as Terry, I have used both but for your needs I would go for a NF with the NP-2DD reticle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onehole Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 For the conditions you describe I would favour a second hand NXS.I have owned both but recently gone totally NXS for what I do.Agree glass is better on the S@B but in daylight to early evening its no real issue.Do not really agree with Dan534 regarding turrets I think NF is better but again is a personal thing I suppose.Eye relief? I find my NXS,s give loads of eye relief and was way closer to eye piece on my S@B,s. Both are superb scopes and both do it all ,try to buy a well looked after used and you probably wont ever loose any money if you decide to sell,cheers onehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossy-dog Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Boss has decided on the Nightforce - in 8 - 32! Now has me pushing forward on a new scope (any my fundes are more limited!). Have found a Meopta 3-12x50 zd tactic with illuminated mildot reticle for just under £600. Seems like a good scope but has anyone used this type and got any feedback? How much would i be able to get a second hand 3-15x50 nightforce with a dot reticle (NP2dd i think) for do you think. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richness Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 What would you reccomend for a .22-250 of the above? Thinking about 5 - 20 ish magnification To be used in daylight for foxes, corvids rabbits etc at decent range not really dusk etc. Basically looking for very dependable dialing etc. Weight not an issue (going on an AICS) Boss is looking at the PM2 but i have mentioned nightforce as a good option so the cost isnt impartant cost no option - PM2 Cost an option: IOR NXS second-hand then fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Mossy dog I have not had a nightforce but I have had a meopta. Good scope well built reasonable glass and was looking one time to upgrade to a 4-16 x 44 tactical, probably similar to what you are now thinking about. Can't remember what it was exactly but the turrets put me off so check them carefully if you are going to dial your shots. You would be lucky to get a Nightforce secondhand for £750. For not much more you could have a new IOR, might be worth looking and considering one of these, good glass and nice turrets. Maybe not the nicest looking scopes but very functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-B Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I don't like Nightforce, period. After buying a new NXS 5.5-22x56 some years ago and getting it home to discover that as the sun got low on the horizon it would wash the image out completely at about a 15-20 degree angle as the sun caught the object lens. It did this unmounted off the gun just panning across the horizon. At the time I compared it with my Swarovski 6-18x50-av with 1" tube, and there was no glare inside that Swarovski from a low sun. So next day, I drove back up to York Guns and got a refund/exchange for another Swaro 6-18x50av. I still have them to this day and they have been excellent scopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richness Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 The glare/flare control on the IORs is top notch; I've specifically noticed that on the moors at dusk. It's very important and often overlooked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-B Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Yeah I agree it's very important, and it's easy to over look or people simply don't think this could be a problem on a piece of glassware at that price point. It seemed a fine scope looking through it over the fields outside the shop at mid day. I suppose a really long sunshade should help sort this on any problem scope, but on one costing over a grand... back to where it came from that's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJR Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why not use the shade? Stops what your talking about and also keeps drizzle off the lens if you get caught in the rain. Shooting a dusk - remove shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richness Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why not use the shade? Stops what your talking about and also keeps drizzle off the lens if you get caught in the rain. Shooting a dusk - remove shade. I always do mate, for sure. yet some scopes are much much better at dealing with head-on light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossy-dog Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Im waiting to find a 5.5-22x50 with an NP2DD since using a mates! Seem to hover around £900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richness Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 If 5.5-22 is your choice, why not go 6-24? There are loads of pukka 6-24s. Swaro ph and zeiss victory spring to mind. I particularly think the former is a great secondhand bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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