Jame5m Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Six Sigma seeks to improve the quality of process outputs by identifying and removing the causes of defects (errors) and minimizing variability in manufacturing and business processes. I've done it a few times in various engineering companies, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Six Sigma seeks to improve the quality of process outputs by identifying and removing the causes of defects (errors) and minimizing variability in manufacturing and business processes. As pithy and accurate description as is possible I'll come back to 6 sigma later - as it answers one of the great puzzles of the new rifles. Meanwhile, The chassis: In his right hand, Tom holds a solid billet. In his left he holds what they transform it into: the heart of the chassis. And a pic of the transformation in progress Wire EDM is used for some of the transformation, here the mag well has been cut The result is the heart of the chassis, shown here now anodised and with the action bonded to it Now ready to receive the remainder of the chassis; top, an AW or AE folder, below, an AX or AXMC folder Which are then bonded and pinned to the heart of the chassis (in these pictures, an AT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aam Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Six Sigma seeks to improve the quality of process outputs by identifying and removing the causes of defects (errors) and minimizing variability in manufacturing and business processes. I've done it a few times in various engineering companies, Jame5m, Thank you for explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Actions. From this: To this: Barrels. Lothar Walther by the pallet. As the single greatest determinant of accuracy; AI subject every single barrel to an exacting QA process. A measured check of all critical dimensions as well as visual borescope inspection of every single barrel. Question: Why do AW / AT / AX actions have a square (rather than round) cross section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jame5m Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Actions. From this: To this: Barrels. Lothar Walther by the pallet. As the single greatest determinant of accuracy; AI subject every single barrel to an exacting QA process. A measured check of all critical dimensions as well as visual borescope inspection of every single barrel. Question: Why do AW / AT / AX actions have a square (rather than round) cross section? Cheaper to machine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Flat bedding surface just like bench rest actions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Facinating pics from what must have been a memorable visit Matt A pity a factory trip couldn't be arranged ---or is that possible? Why flat bottomed - these AT AW and AX are all bonded to the chassis and the flat base allows greater surface contact (guessing??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Certainly not cheaper to machine, more set ups required for the milling the flats out of round over just a round action. I think the flat bottom section allows for an easier mate up to the aluminium chassis - it's easier to get two perfectly flat (or with a close tolerance) surfaces mated together rather than mess about with v blocks and round actions / chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Nope, no one's got it yet. Why did pic 1's round action morph to pic 2 and, ultimately, pic 3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 It allows extra material (to strengthen and stiffen) to the receiver in certain areas, rather than having an oversized round with a uniform thickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 It's definitely a better shape for an action, better bedding, better access for a magazine, more material for increased stiffness.......but, as with all great engineering steps, it was an accident of circumstance...bringing the early rifle design forward for the very first sale (to the SBS twenty years ago (pre 1984) ) Dave Walls and Dave Caig found: "We didn't have round bar of the right size; we only had rectangular bar of the right size needed to make the action body. This hiccup led to stumbling on the design of the most famous rifle in the history of sniping. It was easier and faster on our machines back then to cut them from flat than it would have been to make the action round, and this enabled us to use a 10 shot double stack magazine". And that's the full story as to why this: Changed to this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged 77 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 It's definitely a better shape for an action, better bedding, better access for a magazine, more material for increased stiffness.......but, as with all great engineering steps, it was an accident of circumstance...bringing the early rifle design forward for the very first sale (to the SBS twenty years ago (pre 1984) ) Dave Walls and Dave Caig found: "We didn't have round bar of the right size; we only had rectangular bar of the right size needed to make the action body. This hiccup led to stumbling on the design of the most famous rifle in the history of sniping. It was easier and faster on our machines back then to cut them from flat than it would have been to make the action round, and this enabled us to use a 10 shot double stack magazine". Outstanding! Necessity being the mother of invention then - case in point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Outstanding! Necessity being the mother of invention then - case in point. Absolutely agree. Amazing story isn't it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jame5m Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Outstanding! Necessity being the mother of invention then - case in point. Like most things when it comes to engineering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxing2night Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Awesome Matt, Thanks for sharing Darrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 BOLTS The new bolts - six lug in all calibres: AT in 308.....six lug bolt.....short S&B 3-20: The AT really is everything the AW was, plus the new features. AX and AT: Had a crack with it on the indoor 100m range. Accuracy was what you'd expect from an AI (some targets visible in the bolt pics above.) Also removed and refitted the barrel during a 10 shot string. Result was a single group.: I was asked not to photograph the barrel locking mech. It's simple and in terms of torque, when done up, makes the barrel more firmly fixed than on a fully torqued AW/AE. Not my best photo; the quick change barrels have flats to facilitate field removal of any that have been on for years and gunked in place: A pallet of AT goodness. I believe this lot went to Sporting Services last week: AEs still in production; a contract batch being prepared with rear monopod (an option not normally available): AWs - both AWs and AEs will be supported 'forever' - contract customers still order both models for commonality of training and parts with their existing rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 any news on the new bi-pod? I understand the AX bi-pod has been taken out of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Now I'm really jealous of your visit…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown dog Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Now I'm really jealous of your visit…. Had a crack with the new AX too... The right folding stock is a MAJOR step forward. Although, for reasons I don't understand (perhaps a muscle-memory thing because I've always had AWs) I found the AT easier to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 AWs and AEs will be supported 'forever' - contract customers still order both models for commonality of training and parts with their existing rifles. Thanks for clarifying this, I take it this shall also be for every iteration or 'mark' of AE rifle also. A very interesting and informative post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 FFS I take it the new configuration right hand folder stock piece is retro fittable to "old"version AX chassis……..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 If they are designing a new bipod for the AX series , to me it should be something like the Revolution bipod made by Eliteiron in hte USA , as thats the one I am looking at for my AX , have not seen anything else , I would like to use on this rifle . Later Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aam Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Thank you for posting more AI pics and information. When I was looking at the six lugs on the bolt, it reminded me of some pics ROLEXrifleman put on sniper's hide. The third bolt down with the AE type shroud, from a 94 vintage AI AT. A link for those that are interested. http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers-hide-bolt-action-rifles/49466-ai-bolt-pics.html#post690905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummy Mark Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Any idea why they use wire erosion for the magazine cutout? do they use the waste block for a part on something else? Only reason I ask is that in a past past past life I worked on wire erosion machines, Charmilles Technology, and its not a quick process , so can only make an educated guess that the internal shape of the mag' well must be too complex for standard machining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradders Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Any idea why they use wire erosion for the magazine cutout? do they use the waste block for a part on something else? Only reason I ask is that in a past past past life I worked on wire erosion machines, Charmilles Technology, and its not a quick process , so can only make an educated guess that the internal shape of the mag' well must be too complex for standard machining...It's the only way to get an accurate and tight tolerance corner (round mill cutters leave a radius) in the mag well.This is more prevalent the deeper the mag well is. The other way to do it is to set up and broach with a suitably manufactured broaching cutter and machine to precisely run it. EDM is therefore more attractive. Besides they probably use the same EDM machine to cut the bolt raceway. I know McMillan do that with their Tubb rifles, I've seen them do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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