skany Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 17 hours ago, Derekhogg said: That’s perfect that. That was one of the many issues I had with the creed,it only had a short barrel so couldn’t get the speed with copper. My tube is currently 22" to the action face(It had a trim from 30) didn't loose anything like the speed anticipated(i gained most of it back with a powder change) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skany Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 16 hours ago, No i deer said: My 284 shot the 180gr ELDM's superb out to 1000yds.. I was shooting 600yds snaps and 3 blew up during the coarse of fire.. It was a cold morning and they were doing 2770fps according to my bal cal.. Stopped using them after as it cost me too many points. I've used 100s of 180gr berger hybrids since and no issues.. I heard some folk were getting this on the early batches,ive yet to see so far 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekhogg Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, skany said: My tube is currently 22" to the action face(It had a trim from 30) didn't loose anything like the speed anticipated(i gained most of it back with a powder change) Good to know that, I chose a 24” tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 7 hours ago, skany said: I heard some folk were getting this on the early batches,ive yet to see so far 🙂 That's what I thought and it happened.. I didn't think they'd be going fast enough to blow up.. I blew up 3 in my 7mm saum but they were doing nearly 3000fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 This time last year the 180gr ELDM's blew up in my 284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekhogg Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 4 hours ago, No i deer said: This time last year the 180gr ELDM's blew up in my 284 Just going to fast I take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 The ELDM's have a tenancy to blow up.. Possibly the jackets are too thin.. There's alot if info on accurate shooter about them blowing up.. The 6.5 cal bullets can aswell.. Lots of shooters have experienced it.. I know some personally.. Here's a video from somewhere in the US 18475957_295468850903196_474170011590590464_n.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekhogg Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 10 minutes ago, No i deer said: The ELDM's have a tenancy to blow up.. Possibly the jackets are too thin.. There's alot if info on accurate shooter about them blowing up.. The 6.5 cal bullets can aswell.. Lots of shooters have experienced it.. I know some personally.. Here's a video from somewhere in the US 18475957_295468850903196_474170011590590464_n.mp4 1.65 MB · 0 downloads 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt234 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 I'm getting good results with N150 & 150gr ELD-X in my tikka T3 with a custom barrel the picture below is a four shot group I shot the other day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Nice group. The lightest bullet I've used is 162grs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 5 shot groups at 100yds with 180gr ELDM's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekhogg Posted February 14 Author Report Share Posted February 14 I’m hoping for similar results with the 162’s👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skany Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 On 2/8/2024 at 10:21 PM, No i deer said: The ELDM's have a tenancy to blow up.. Possibly the jackets are too thin.. There's alot if info on accurate shooter about them blowing up.. The 6.5 cal bullets can aswell.. Lots of shooters have experienced it.. I know some personally.. Here's a video from somewhere in the US 18475957_295468850903196_474170011590590464_n.mp4 1.65 MB · 0 downloads Thats Mad,not had one as yet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 I fired around 900 through before my 284 blew one.. Trouble was I blew up 3 during a 600yds snaps match.. 3 nice central shots out of 4 and a blank target.. I was baffled from the firing point why a marker was missing. Norman Clark was marking my targets and got another club member marking in the next lane too look for the missing bullet holes.. They too found it strange that i was missing a shot.. I spoke to them when they got back from butt duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 I’m hoping for 3000fps in a7 SAUM 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekhogg Posted February 19 Author Report Share Posted February 19 7 minutes ago, Scotch_egg said: I’m hoping for 3000fps in a7 SAUM 🤣 Yea I think you might just scrape that with the right powder 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 With what bullet Dave..? 162gr eldx or a 180gr ELDM..?? Your 7mm saum could blow either of them if fired in quick succession.. Slow fire with small strings may not see a blow up. Depending on the conditions.. Wind dependant I probably fire the 4 shots on each exposure in 25 seconds. The last exposure is 20 seconds. 24 shots altogether.. 4 siters and 20 to count.. 6 exposures of 4 fig11s.. One shot on each fig11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 21 hours ago, No i deer said: With what bullet Dave..? 162gr eldx or a 180gr ELDM..?? Your 7mm saum could blow either of them if fired in quick succession.. Slow fire with small strings may not see a blow up. Depending on the conditions.. Wind dependant I probably fire the 4 shots on each exposure in 25 seconds. The last exposure is 20 seconds. 24 shots altogether.. 4 siters and 20 to count.. 6 exposures of 4 fig11s.. One shot on each fig11 162’s but going to also try 180’s I haven’t decided which to use yet. The rifle has previously shot 180gr bergers. I’ve finally managed to pick up a kg if N560. I’m not planning on any snap shooting. I’ve got a use in mind that many won’t agree with 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Why N560..? N165 is really good in the saum. If I remember rightly I had the 162gr amaxs doing over 3000fps in my first saum barrel on H1000. A 28 inch barrel I think.. I've still got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 23 hours ago, No i deer said: Why N560..? N165 is really good in the saum. If I remember rightly I had the 162gr amaxs doing over 3000fps in my first saum barrel on H1000. A 28 inch barrel I think.. I've still got it After a lot of searching for powder and coming up short. I came across the 7 SAUM reloading topic on snipershide. n560 showed some pretty great results and I found some in stock. It’s worth a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 No harm in trying 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No i deer Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 https://www.accurateshooter.com/featured/7mm/#7SAUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_egg Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 13 hours ago, No i deer said: https://www.accurateshooter.com/featured/7mm/#7SAUM Cheers pal. apologies folks we seem to have hijacked this .284 thread. one thing is for sure the 7mm’s really do offer the best ballistics. They absolutely trump the 6.5’s and I can’t wait to get mine up and running. It’s been through 4 people now so no idea if the barrel is going to shoot or it’s toast. One thing is for sure I’ll be having another 7 SAUM barrel put on it if it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekhogg Posted February 22 Author Report Share Posted February 22 I certainly don’t mind folk commenting on different 7mm’s it’s good info. I really like my 7mm rem mag but it’s a sitting in a spot rifle and gets heavy for humfing round, that’s why I’m building a light weight .284 because I like the 7mm bullet but just fancied something a bit different than I already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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