Deerless Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Seeking opinions on the Nightforce scopes compared to Zeiss Victory Diavari IR. I curently have a 5.5 to 22x50 Nightforce on the 17 Furball and now looking for new scope on the 243 which will be main Foxing tool at night. I find the nightforce OK but have heard reports that they are pants at night compared to other similar priced scopes like the Zeiss Deerless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigun Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 the nightforce scope if you have the 8-32x56 will only be good to 13x mag if your useing a fillter on your lamp a lot more if you take the fillter off ..i shot a fox the other night out to 196 yrds with the same scope and amber fillter on no problems ..if your doing just foxing at night try the 22x nightforce some say there better for night work .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Zeiss, and to show you it's not Zeiss user bias, I own four Nightforces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm a S&B fan, looked through the 6-24x56 zeiss... wow and there was a 5-25x56 schmidt next to it. Field of view seemed better with the zeiss. I'm saving. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 In the dark the NF scopes I have looked through have been perfectly adequate but Ziess has an undoubted edge, even the old Ziess scopes are optically better than the NXS in low light. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Zeiss are german, nighforce are jap....its a no brainer, and i,m the same as elwood, i,ve got 4 nx,s. If you want to really sicken yourself, have a look through the giant 72 mil zeiss....that is some scope....it knocks the spots of the pm11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menial 1 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Seeking opinions on the Nightforce scopes compared to Zeiss Victory Diavari IR.I curently have a 5.5 to 22x50 Nightforce on the 17 Furball and now looking for new scope on the 243 which will be main Foxing tool at night. I find the nightforce OK but have heard reports that they are pants at night compared to other similar priced scopes like the Zeiss Deerless I recently parted with an NXS because at night and in low light I didn't like it's poor light gathering ability. For daytime work, long range, dialling in corrections , it performed flawlessly. European scopes tend to be designed and built to be used in the forest where light is generally poor. Like I said, the NXS will perform flawlessly, but it just didn't suit my needs for lamping or stalking, both almost always done in poor light. Thousands of happy owners can't be wrong, just wouldn't recommend one over a European for mainly lamping work. Suppose I'd better put the helmet on now. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I think you are right, the Ziess will allow you to take maybe 10% more shots that a NF/Swaro wont BUT given a reasonable amount of light on the target then NSX etc are fine. Ziess are only now getting into target turrets, once they get those sorted they should mop up. I see some of you are fanned up by the 56mm Ziess and bigger. A while ago I compared by BGAT 7x42 Binos with a friends Nightowl 8x56 ones. In the dark there was NOTHING to choose between them, therefore I cannot see why Ziess cannot make a smaller lensed highish mag illum ret scope with target turrets. Maybe 6x24x50 or even 42. Perhaps they now do, I have not been onto their site for a while. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northernchris Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I want a tarmac rally car,i want a gravel rally car!! Both similar looking but designed to do very different jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Spanner - Works Swarowski do a variable to 24 power Z6 now. and will be releasing a 32 power Z6 zoom in spring 2009...... Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 A friend of a friend is an optometrist so he should know a few things about lenses. Had a good chat with him and he said I can get you a good price on what you want. I asked for recommendations and although not a shooter his answer was without doubt zeiss no matter whether scope, binocular or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikka 223 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Got a Zeiss Victory Diavari IR. 3-12x56 and it will come with me to the grave What more can i say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramble basher Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 had a look at the big 72mm zeiss at the midland fair i know it was in the day and most things look good in the day but came away from the stand with one thought on my mind WOW and before you ask i own a nightforce and am very happy with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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