Oly Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Just wondering how you tell the difference between Nosler's Hunting ballistic tips and Nosler's Varminting ballistic tips - as they both look the same on the web. Or is it just down to weight, and if so where is the cut off between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Just wondering how you tell the difference between Nosler's Hunting ballistic tips and Nosler's Varminting ballistic tips - as they both look the same on the web. Or is it just down to weight, and if so where is the cut off between the two? I thought it was on the colour of the heads, the ballistic tips being green and the hunting heads not (which means I can't remember the colour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I was once told (by an RFD I think) that the colour relates to the caliber/diameter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrek Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 yea the colour is different calibers, green .30 cal, purple .243, dont know the rest. Cant really help you on the inital question however Oly, only ever used one box which i acquired, then saw the price to continue using ... so decided to use different cheaper bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 The website has a section for varmint. 20, 22, 6mm &25 cal 6mm up to 80gr = varmint 25cal 85gr = varmint. Not sure if there is any difference in the build of the boolit. Just know that the 55gr 22cal holds together very well out of my 22-250. The 165gr 30cal is as almost as soft as a hornady a-max. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Thanks for that Edi - whereabouts did you read that? I presume that there is a difference in the build of the bullets so that the varmints have a thinner jacket to explode more rapidly with less impact pressure required and the hunting bullets can be used on deer etc as they need more pressure to react - therefore you get better penetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 varmint section try that and at the left the hunting bt's I believe a varmint bullet at slower speeds is a hunting bullet. That's why the long range fellas sometimes use a-maxes for the long range shots. Maybe the bullet makers should recomend impact speeds for their bullets. edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 As I understand it the hunting version are of heavier weights as previously advised and have thicker jackets to delay expansion. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg223 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Back to theorie 1, if they are heavier they'll be slower and don't need thicker jackets. a 22lr doesn't need a jacket at all edi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 You can see from here http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=3 that the two bullets are completely different as you would expect. They only mention in passing that the lead in the hunting bullet is different ( harder with more antimony ) and the case mouth is thicker too. How you tell which is which they dont say, but I would guess they are not both available in the same weights. I have used 243/95gr, 308/150gr, and 270/130gr, all were very accurate and did not do excessive meat damage but killed cleanly, with reasonable weight retention. I have found though that using Hornady and Sierra flat base hunting bullets still gave outstanding accuracy and clean kills at a more reasonable price. I do use Nosler BTs in the 222 as it likes them, but Vmax in the 22 250 and sometimes in the 17rem as they do well on those. Redfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Yes - I think the only differentiation is via weight too. For example: 6mm Varminting - 55-80gn http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=11&b...;s=17&t=6mm 6mm Hunting - 90-95gn http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=11&b=5&s=5 I wonder if they purposefully don't make it that clear as there isn't a great deal in it? Glad I wasn't the only one confused! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22/250 foxer Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 i think the 224 varmint ones have a orange head. or they do the silver tip ones in 224 like the ones used in factory ammo winchester silver tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menial 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 i think the 224 varmint ones have a orange head. or they do the silver tip ones in 224 like the ones used in factory ammo winchester silver tips. I used to use the orange tipped .224 bullets and liked them a lot, however my wallet didn't and they priced themselves out for me and I changed to Sierra Blitzkings which I found to be as good as the Noslers and a lot more consistent in length/weight than V-Max, also use Blitzkings in .243 on everything other than large deer. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Just to add another question on ballistic tips... Hornady's V-Max don't appear to make the same distinction between hunting ballistic tips (ie. for deer) and varminting ballistic tips(i.e. for errr varmints!). So...are heavy V-Max appropriate for deer, or are they simply a varmint bullet? If they are appropriate for deer - at what weights? Again - thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northernchris Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 V-Max will work fine for head shots,wouldnt use them for any other shot,best stick to useing "proper" deer type bullets and save the V-Max for vermin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 So the V really does stand for Varmint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northernchris Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magwa1962 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 yea the colour is different calibers, green .30 cal, purple .243, dont know the rest. Cant really help you on the inital question however Oly, only ever used one box which i acquired, then saw the price to continue using ... so decided to use different cheaper bullets Green is 22 cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiff Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Green is 22 cal. Well I've got some orange ones in .224, so where do they fit into that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6mmBR Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I've got green in .308 and orange in .224 and 6.5's are brown? Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menial 1 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Green 125grn .308, orange 50grn .224, purple 70grn 6mm, these are the colours of the rounds from Nosler that I load. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-NZ Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 and .270 Ballistic Tips are yellow in colour Chris-NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL. Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 So if you run accubonds?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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