shooter79 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Evening all. Due to the shortage in the one powder that everyone seems to pin their shooting groups too, i would like to branch out away from Varget. Calibre will be .308 and .243 and there will be no bench rest shooting involved. Had a chat on the phone with Tiff on here not long ago and just curious what others think. He recommended the Ramshot brand but the aim is to have a supply close to me in Exeter? Thoughts please? Carl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter79 Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Just read you post Tiff regarding group postage with Henry Kranks. If anyone is interested, i will be placing an order shortly to get hold of some Ramshot Tac powder. If you live in or around the Exeter area and would like to try this brand out drop me a line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tisme Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 My local shop says they will have varget back in next week. I'll keep you posted if you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywayoflife Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Ramshot wildbore is closest to varget in burn rate. I'm trying some in my 223 and will try it in the 308 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onelesscharlie Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hi I have been using BLC2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onelesscharlie Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hi I have been using BLC2 for 223 and H414 for 243 with excellent results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnery Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 blc-2 powder is brill in .223 try tr140 for 308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter79 Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies lads. Spoke to the Sportsman in Exeter today, they are going to ship some Ramshot Tac down from Henry Kranks for me, i asked them about the £25 handling /postage courier charge and they said i wont need to pay it, result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter79 Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies lads. Spoke to the Sportsman in Exeter today, they are going to ship some Ramshot Tac down from Henry Kranks for me, i asked them about the £25 handling /postage courier charge and they said i wont need to pay it, result! Ramshot wildbore is closest to varget in burn rate. I'm trying some in my 223 and will try it in the 308 too Danny, how did you see the Wildbore powder near the Varget, i seem to see it. All i can see is Tac near it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 FWIW: Varget is finding it's way back onto the shelves of US retailers. Bought 5 pounds last week.~Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannywayoflife Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Thanks for the replies lads. Spoke to the Sportsman in Exeter today, they are going to ship some Ramshot Tac down from Henry Kranks for me, i asked them about the £25 handling /postage courier charge and they said i wont need to pay it, result! Danny, how did you see the Wildbore powder near the Varget, i seem to see it. All i can see is Tac near it? Hay mate I looked on some powder burn rate charts. Wildbore is as near as dam it accurate 2520 but cleaner burning the velocity's it generates with the 223 are very very fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 'Wild Bore' is almost certainly the same as US Accurate-2520. By 'US 2520', I mean Belgian manufactured, same as the Ramshot powders. 'Old Accurate-2520' and still available, often under that name is Czech manufactured Lovex DO73.6 ball powder. It gives very high velocities, but as dannywayollife says, is a dirty burner and you have real trouble getting the powder fouling off the outside of case-necks if you don't do it straight after shooting, or use one of the more advanced case cleaning methods. The reason for the confusion is that Western Powders Inc.of Miles City, Montana which introduced and distributes Ramshot powders, bought the Accurate Arms company maybe five or six years ago. They soon ditched all the Czech powders that the former A-A company had bought and replaced them with similar burning rate products from elsewhere, in the case of ball powders, from the Belgian plant that supplies them with Ramshot grades. The Czech powders are still available in the UK as they're imported and distributed by Westlander Ltd http://www.westlander.co.uk/ They should be (and mostly are) labelled now with the correct Lovex brand and product names, but so that longterm users know what they are usually have a sticker on that gives the old Accurate name and number too. Returning to Ramshot, both TAC and Wild Boar perform very well indeed in .223 Rem and .308 Win. Wild Boar is a bit slower burning and is better suited to heavy bullets if top MVs are wanted. It gives extremely good velocities with 80s and even 90s in .223. For heavies, 180gn and up, in .308 Win, the next slowest burner in the Ramshot range, 'Big Game' is an excellent performer and will give higher MVs than either of the faster burners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 FWIW: Varget is finding it's way back onto the shelves of US retailers. Bought 5 pounds last week.~Andrew great to have you here Andrew, being from US its great to know wtf is really happening from across the pond ! keep us posted bud .. atb...tim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 1 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 is the tac as good as varget in 308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exeter lad Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 YES!! Tac is amazing and is very good!! I've got faster fps and tighter groups with tac over varget and guess what... It's cheaper too :-) Trying it with my 243 now and see how it goes.. Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Aaron, Henry Krank has just (finally) received its first shipment of Ramshot 'Hunter'. It's a slower burner than Tac and should be ideal for .243 Win. (Likewise, 260 Rem, 6.5x47L, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5X55mm and most mid size to large cased sixes.) It has a similar burning speed to the various 4350s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exeter lad Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ok mate I'm trying tac for the time being but if I have no results in load testing I will call him! Thanks Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 1 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 cheers Aaron, i use tac in my 22-250 so i will try it in the 308 when i use the last 40 rounds of the varget loads and then see how i get on. im on max loads with the varget 47grn over a sierra 150grn sp so will need to be near upper levels with the tac to try and imitate the varget loads. cheers James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 blc-2 powder is brill in .223 try tr140 for 308 Plus one for blc2 for 223. Very good powder and meters really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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