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Leeman - if this rail is still available I'll take it - please PM me on targetshooteronline@icloud.com

Most 6PPC benchrest rifles have a 1 in 13 to 1 in 15 twist with 1 in 14 being preferred by most.

This will stabilise up to 68 grain FB bullets.

I'd be happy to give you trade plus postage for the 300 Berger 105gn Hybrids. PM me on targetshooteronline@icloud.com

Hi Gazzar - email me on vince.bottomley@pssa.uk

Fox Firearms sell a really good one made from slippery plastic - costs about £20

Nice rifle Chris. We've started shooting 100 yd rimfire BR at Diggle and it's proving quite popular.  Shot against one of your other BR rifles at Gelston last Sunday - have you given up on benchrest?

20 hours ago, Lawrence said:

OK after reading and searching I have found some mods can have muzzle brakes attached I can't find out how common this is, if all mods can have muzzle breaks attached, if anybody on the site has the combination on their rifle if so did the mod come with the brake or did you have to get it fitted?

The reason I have raised this topic because I have seen complaints about shooters with brakes getting complained about on the firing points and PRS have said that it is better to have a brake fitted for competitions than a mod because there is not usually anybody near you when you are shooting, hence my question is can all moderators be fitted with muzzle brakes?

Any suggestions even those telling me to go away in short jerky movements would be appreciated.

Lawrence - if you're intending to shoot at Diggle you won't get any complaints re your brake, mod or whatever.  However, some comps - namely F Class - don't allow brakes.

OK - well come up for a chat sometime and talk about what you want to shoot/buy.

1 hour ago, Lawrence said:

Sorry should have made myself clearer rifle rules please join point me in the right direction 

Thanks 

Lawrence - as you are based in Manchester, you are not too far from Diggle Ranges.  WE shoot most rifle disciplines. have a look at our website www.diggleranges.com and if you like what you see PM me on vince.bottomley@pssa.uk to arrange a visit and all your questions will be answered.

5 minutes ago, Blokewotshoots said:

Are these still available?

As far as I know, Gary at gcostello@pbs-int.co.uk still has some.

Hey - you beat Darrel so a good day.........

Working back from your terminal vel. at 1000 yds my ballistic app gives a velocity of 2801 fps at 100 yds and a muzzle velocity of 2976 fps - which sounds about right Matey.

We're not closed but you are correct - there does seem to be an issue - happens from time to time. We'll try and sort it ASAP

Vince

Done

Quite a few of us are waiting for 'the day'.

Nick,

Why not just go on the Swiss website (Google it) - starting loads for 6BR with 105gn bullet and RS52 are listed.

If you are wanting to buy a new one you could try North West Custom parts - Wayne did have a couple.

ds1 (forum member) does an excellent rear bag that ticks all your boxes 'quietman'.

I've been using one for a couple of years - best I've used - not too heavy or large - just right.

3 hours ago, John MH said:

Yes, both and all.

IPRF Webpage IPRF Facebook Page

GBPRA Webpage GBPRA Facebook Page

The GBPRA is identified as an Affiliate Member of the IPRF but as already identified they have 'exclusive rights as a Member Nation for 2 years while they constitute their organisations', so no one other than this small cabal gets a look in or can put shooters forward as 'Athletes' to represent GB in 'their' IPRF 'World Championships'. I suppose its currently their 'train set' so the can make up their own rules but it does not represent GB PR type shooters and its got off to a bad start. Better comms with the 'community' might have helped but its past that now.

Thanks John - a bit different from the BAIRS page!

2 hours ago, Moorlander said:

 Yes , its here https://www.facebook.com/BAIRS-102853531838499 😄

Wow - that's an amazing Facebook page.............

1 hour ago, John MH said:

I do not believe so and, as it does not yet 'exist' as an 'democratically constituted' association with any members other than the small cabal trying to set it up, NRA affiliation, approval or recognition is someway off.

Chicken and egg situation, a good idea in principle. Problem is it looks a like the GBPRA is a self appointed association that is going to be part of the IPRF (same people setting up both). The IPRF (same people as the GBPRA) say the each nation has 2 years to set up a 'democratically constituted sports association', however the GBPRA have, on the face of it already declared themselves as the GB NGB for PR. And even if they cannot be considered the GB NGB by GB shooters they way the IPRF has been set up, if they (the GBPRA) were to considered to be an Affiliate Nation (under the draft IPRF Constitution) and as stated on the IPRF the GBPRA has 'have exclusive rights as a Member Nation for 2 years while they constitute their organizations'. So, in theory' for at least two years the GBPRA can dictate as the like in the UK whilst operation under the IPRF.

Under the IPRF published information GBPRA cannot be a Full Member or Associate Member of the IPRF as they are not currently 'democratically constituted' nor are they accepted by the 'national sport shooting federation' (I'm guess in the UK that's the NRA) as the official Precision Rifle Shooting Sport.

The IPRF named GBPRA representatives have not been democratically 'elected', however, that does not mean they may not be in the future; time will tell.

The launching of the IPRF, as far as the GB element goes, has not gone down well and from what I've seen of published communications with current PR event organisers its not been received well either.

Lets hope differences can be resolved.

 

 

Do they (GBPRA) have a website or Facebook page - I'm struggling to find one.

52 minutes ago, terryh said:

Vince,

It is not a matter of 'if you don't want to compete-fine' - which is a sensible statement, it is the fact that you cannot complete unless nominated by the GBPRA, an new organisation set up by two people who have personal financial interest in the sport and without any consultation with the shooter, in fact it appears to have been done in secret, no published aims but apparently the official GB governing body - this is what's got up folks collective noses.

It is a great version of shooting sports, I very much enjoyed it (but now getting a bit old for it now) and would love to see it grow. It is how it has been highjacked that feels a bit wrong

Thank you for the replies/clarification. So it's all about the GBPRA right? Is this 'body' approved/affiliated to the NRA? 

We went through a similar 'rift' in the early days of the UKBRA - very difficult to form breakaway organisations as international shoot organisers will normally only deal with associations affiliated to their national body (the NRA).  If the GBPRA is affiliated to the NRA then surely it must hold an AGM - the place to sort things out.

Wow - I'm a bit gobsmacked!  When I first saw Long Range Captain's post on the PR World Championships I didn't even click on it - why would I  - I don't shoot PRS.  I'd love to if I were a bit younger though.

But, then I read through 60+ mainly negative posts.  What is the matter with PR shooters?  Surely this is a fantastic opportunity to get your discipline recognised internationally - not to mention the fun of taking part in an overseas international event.

My sport is rather less strenuous - Benchrest - but I've had the pleasure of representing the UK at many world championships - it's taken me to New Zealand, France, Austria, Italy, America, Spain, Sweden - I've had some great times and made some great friends. It's not just about pulling a trigger!

Guys - if you don't want to compete - fine - it's not compulsory but please, give it a chance - don't rubbish something before it even takes place.

50 minutes ago, 1066 said:

That's interesting - Any chance of posting a photo of a group at 20 yards?

To be honest it's just a fun gun - I use it (with others who have 'em) on steel plates. Mine's a 3 inch barrel. 

Nope - I've never used lead bullets in mine. FMJ are clean and quick to reload - I can reload mine in 90 secs including cleaning chambers and pricking flash-holes.