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Yep I'll take 'em please. PM me on targetshooteronline@icloud.com

On the other hand Pengo - I'm slightly favouring the Gay Tiger for 1000 yard when Lapua bring out the brass in autumn.

You'd certainly be OK for 600 yd BR (I'm currently shooting a 6BR at 600 and 1000) but you might be giving away a bit of velocity at 1000 yds. Why not just open the boltface a few thou and shoot 6BR or Dasher? Easy job for a 'smith. You'd be wanting a 28 or 30 inch barrel.

Bought a Vostok a few years ago for £100 - hoping to rebuild it into a 22RF benchgun. The chunky action looks good but the set triggers were not so good. I still have action and cutdown barrel if you need spares.

6x47 Lapua - I'm assuming you run this calibre? I'm shooting mine on RS60 for 1000 yd benchrest but none left so I'm looking to switch to Vhitavuori - so 150 or 160 with a 105gn bullet.

6 hours ago, Big Al said:

Thanks Vince, hope your keeping well.

Yes I am thanks - would love to see you return to the benches sometime.......

Al - I think that's one of the best summations of barrel-tuners I've ever read.

On 1/21/2024 at 7:24 PM, Big Al said:

I am very much a fan of barrel tuners and Ive felt this way since 2017.

I have done a lot of testing with tuners of the 'moveable weight via a thread' design and there is no doubt in my mind that they can help a shooter in reducing the average size of the their groups in many different scenarios. The tuner could be connected directly to the barrel or as part of a moderator/tuner set up or a brake/tuner set up, they all work the same and deliver the same results.

The problem regarding their effectiveness lies very much with how much effort and understanding shooters put into them, the more you understand the more they reveal the benefits. The benefits could be different things to different people though. One very obvious benefit is being able to tune ready made ammunition such as factory ammo, they do this very well and thats why very few self respecting top level benchrest rimfire shooters would be seen without one. Apply this to factory CF ammo and you can see some real improvements within the same batch. Time when the bullet you want to use isnt accurate enough can be minimised within reason.

I have loaded rounds for just velocity with no regard for optimum powder charge then tuned the load to shoot as well as a load developed using close observations in powder charge weight. The benefit of this is Ive found accuracy at the velocity I wanted and not where the node was which sometimes can be well below the speed you wanted with the next node being too high causing pressure issues.

Something Ive never been able to do is tune a barrel with a barrel tuner to be any more accurate than a well tuned barrel using any of the more recognised methods.

Once a barrel is in a high state of tune with any tuning method I think thats it, there is little if anything to then be improved upon, highly tuned is highly tuned regardless of how you got there. You also reach a stage where other factors like how well you can shoot comes into play for many people or how meticulous in your testing, record keeping and data analysis you are, being able to discern very small differences becomes difficult. I used to have a very stable shooting platform in the form of a 46lb bench rest heavy gun, that allowed me to see things I had never been able to see shooting my regular rifles but it cost a lot of money in time and testing to find.

I also think some tuners are better than others, the Bramley one is very good. Some are just too big and too heavy where in combination with the thread pitch and increment sizes they make for too coarse an adjustment and you miss lots of stuff in between.

Well worth a watch - all 75 minutes - unless you've just fitted a barrel-tuner.........

Never shot PRS but always thought the challenge was targets at unknown distances - difficult to run on a formal range with fixed firing-points and bullet-catchers - so how was this achieved at Bisley?

19 hours ago, Popsbengo said:

what's the twist rate Ralph?

Forget 250gr lock-base at a mile, they go subsonic around 1600yds.   If you have a 1:9 or possibly 1:10 then Lapua Scenar 300gr or Hornady 285gr ELD-M are good to a mile,  slower twist (like a AI AW) and you can't stabilise the heavier bullets.  I have 300gr Bergers to develop but I'm reticent as they're like rocking horse poo - probably stick to Hornady.

Don't know about RS70 as I use Viht N570,  I have oodles of the stuff !

Also, see this  https://barrett.net/support/98b-recall/

I have a box of 300gn Bergers (and 250s for that matter) PM me if interested.

Nick - that's a good price with rings and level - stick it on Diggle Club notice board - I know a couple of shooters looking for one.

11 hours ago, Nick 53 said:

Yes I’ve checked my records and I’ve paid £480.00 plus postage 

with that I’m going to sell at a suitable offer but nothing lower than £480.00

Matey - What are you using to weigh your powder charges when you sell these?

Fox Firearms have just taken in an 'as new' 36X Sightron with fine crosshair. Great scope for what you want. Objective 50mm or more - why?

Plinking or competition?

Black rat - if you're a Diggle member - we've just set up a members notice board for sale/wanted/exchange of reloading components.

Brian Fox keeps a stock but your a long way from Diggle.  It's used by foundaries for casting - there may be one in your area if you Google it.

I saw some Federal for a bargain £150/1000!  But, I need to try some Sellior & Bellot at a more realistic £70/1000 from Westlander.

6-284 is awesome but think 450 rounds............. If you want benchrest accuracy.

On 4/19/2021 at 6:48 AM, baldie said:

When on a rifle range, there is a certainty, you will hear guns going bang.

👍

N140 is usually the 'go to' load with 155s.

On 2/28/2023 at 7:42 AM, Ronin said:

There’s a savage for sale (Nick 53) in the classifieds

 

will need a barrel but it’s bang on the money for starting off 

 

Someone selling a Savage 308 barrel for £100 (with borescope pics) on the Fullbore forum. 

The 308 Savage FTR is a great choice for starting in FTR - I don't think your other options come with that 30 inch barrel. The Savage laminate stock is plenty good enough.

When Laurie Holland did his primer test for Target Shooter the Magtech primers did really well.

http://www.targetshooter.co.uk/?p=2662

Good choice. Gap? You want the bag-rider to ride in the ears - not the stitching. I guess either 17 or 19mm will be OK but personally I'd go for the 17mm. The ears are sand filled so a bit of movement to bed the bag-rider in snuggly.

I see you're in North Yorkshire. I shoot F Class at Diggle once a fortnight and I'd be happy to let you try my bag - and there will be one or two other Lenzis there as well - before committing.