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Was this at Bisley? 69's aren't a 600yd bullet, especially at those speeds and 600yds can do odd things to .223's I've seen similar happen on Century with the tricky winds, and the weirdest was when we had a weather front come in that brought a pressure change with it that saw everyones shots drop off the bottom of the target I'd say clean the rifle and try again, preferably in the early morning

ACF has a good rep, although I've never used it I'm just being a little cynical as they're new on the block and have released 6 products that are all miraculously better than the rest ?

What's the twist rate on the barrel?

What percentage of snake oil is in it?

Works for me ? Have a good shoot

Thread title is misleading, there have always been Practical Rifle comps in the North, I can think of Diggle and Altcar as but two venues, and they still run regular PR matches at Diggle

It would require a lot of planning sadly and the targetry onsite isn't what I'd envisage For example I would envision stages with for example 5 targets set at varied distances, 140, 325, 485, 610, 775yds etc of differing sizes, reactors and fixed clangers with stuff like walls, fences, barricades and such to shoot off/from/over/behind You'd need to recce the land and see where you would be setting up and then proving it.....it would all be a lot of work and all quite some way from home I'm not saying it can't be done, but I ruled myself out and there are other people out there who are probably more motivated than me All it requires is the right people to step up with their enthusiasm and ideas...and to agree costs with the site owners and set fees after your costs are deducted Matches in the US are spendy, we once entered a 3 gun match in AZ that was nearly $300 per person, but over here people would baulk at those sort of fees, it's a difficult balance

I briefly mulled over the idea of organising a PRS type match (at Orion), however the practicalities of doing such a thing made it unfeasible Firstly you need a lot of targets then you need a Cof/Match You would also require a team of people to assist setup and transport vehicles and you would also need to "prove" the match which would require a couple of days of test shooting and making amendments/adjustments to the CoF and targets I estimated you would all need to spend 5-7 days there, all the while that they are also trying to run it around you as a commercial enterprise. With targetry, travel and accommodation costs for everyone, you would be hard pressed to recoup your costs within an entry fee that people would find acceptable....so that was the end of that Diggle is a KD (known distance) range, so therefore no different to Bisley etc, when what is preferred is a UKD (Unknown Distance) range, and not conducive to what a PRS style match would be While I haven't been to Eskdalemuir, from pics it looks like a single valley/range, so running multiple stages would be an issue which would lead to log jams, bottlenecks, a loss of shooting time and inevitably mass grumblings from shooters who have paid their fees and also to unnecessary stress put upon the organisers

And nobody here shoots PRS......except when the fantasies run wild in their minds

The receiver in that pic is a Mega Arms, the receiver on the rifle that's for sale is a Hera Arms one

I always take time on this day to stop and think about the actions all those great people performed all those years ago Visiting Normandy a couple of years ago really opened my eyes up to the tremendous feat and challenge, although it does frustrate me somewhat that when people mention the battles, they invariably talk about Pointe du Hoc, Omaha and St Mere Eglise etc, which were American actions, few rarely recount the British or Commonwealth battles.....perhaps the Americans were better at documenting it....or we can thank Hollywood!!! For the record, the RAF were on Omaha too

Sadly the length of you post exceeds the attention span of the average internetter ?

Bit of a long post there.....

These two old Soldiers are always worth listening to on the anniversary of D-Day Fred & Roy

The waiting time is ridiculous at the moment

It's a subjective thing, some people don't bother because they don't have the time/space/inclination/kit/wherewithal etc etc Some people are obsessed with it and have to reload everything, even when it doesn't show up in the results. While good ammo is always better, we discovered ages ago that ammo doesn't win our matches, so why waste all your spare time when you can get the results you want for modest outlay? I'm not against it, but as I get older and manage to score decent ammo at decent prices then the enthusiasm for reloading takes a back seat more and more

10 of the top 15 in Practical and 8 of the top 15 in Service use factory ammo of one kind or other, inc myself, but of those that use homeloads, given the particular match it's not unknown for them to use factory...and vise versa too In our game it's all about shooting ability, ammo is the least of your worries. If you could hold 2 MOA all day long you'd win everything, and why bother when you can buy ammo for £40/100 or so and not be disadvantaged?

I see you didn't post a link to your Euro bullet suppliers, who are they? Spudulike is selling the pooder for £20 more, and then there's the postage I have accounts with both Lapua importers and know what the trade price and what a fair mark up is.....and that's a giveaway price, but up to them I suppose The fact remains though that not everyone has the desire to make their own ammo.....which is what this thread is about, is it not?

Mates Rates® If Edinburgh Rifles wishes to make 3% over trade on brass that's up to him, likewise on the powder and the imported bullets. You're getting the deals, but don't be selling those costs to others as the norm! Paul, contrary to what you think, some people don't reload for a whole host of reasons, next thing you'll be saying is that people only shoot sat on their arses behind a bench..........wait...

Exactly not everyone reloads, has an interest in reloading or has access to cheap or grey imported components

I spoke to the importer and they don’t even have a code for that stuff yet

True, and as long as you keep them clean then the reliability and accuracy can be maintained. This is why items such as the M16 toothbrush are invaluable for getting in there and scrubbing the breech face The feedback I get from my .22 customers is always very satisfying and they often compare the accuracy to that of a good bolt gun, the latest email comparing it to their Anschutz, and that from a .22 semi auto AR with a Walther barrel chambered in .22 Bentz

.22 accuracy is directly related to the quality of barrel and tolerances of the chamber Most mass produced semi-auto .22s have fairly generous "Sporting chambers" to cater for the whole gamut of ammo available...as the man above would say "in the world!", and to ensure reliability Chambering to tighter tolerances can cause issues but for the most part can be rectified If bolt guns are more accurate i's not strictly because they're bolt guns

14 FEBRUARY 2017 • 12:09PM Colour Sergeant Gilbert "Gillie" Howe, who has died aged 87, was one of the most bemedalled and respected members of the Royal Marines and Special Boat Service. Howe was a 21-year old acting corporal when, in the falling light of February 21 1951 and in dense jungle along the Perak river in Malaya, a subsection of 40 Commando was ambushed by bandits. When his officer was severely wounded, Howe immediately assumed command and pressed home an attack, killing one enemy and wounding others. He reorganised the subsection and held his position until at first light a heavy counter-attack developed. By his skill and leadership Howe prevented further casualties, and when reinforcements arrived, he advanced with his subsection, forcing the bandits to flee. Howe was awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal for his outstanding leadership and bravery. Some years later, now serving with 42 Commando in Borneo, Howe’s courage under fire was again demonstrated. He had devised jungle tracker teams which used dogs and Iban tribesmen and was a sergeant in command of a team which met a party of terrorists outnumbering his patrol by four to one. He held his ground doggedly in the face of three attempts to dislodge him. When six of his team became separated and ammunition began running low, he fought an orderly withdrawal. His cool and resolute handling of a very difficult situation led to the award the Military Medal for gallant and distinguished services. Colour Sergeant Gilbert Howe with his wife and daughter Gilbert Rex Howe was born on December 22 1928 at Stradbroke, east Suffolk, and from an early age he wanted to join the Royal Marines. Having enlisted in 1946, he served in the cruiser Sheffield in the West Indies and in Belize, before joining 40 Commando in Malta and moving with them to Malaya, then the most troubled part of the postwar empire. In 1952 he was Corporal of the Gangway in the battleship Vanguard before joining the SBS. A complete professional, he also made his job into his hobby and his prowess as a canoeist enabled him to win five Devizes to Westminster canoe marathons, and to play a major role in the development of a new folding canoe, the Klepper, which replaced a wartime model and is still widely in use today. His particular expertise was close quarters fighting and small arms technology, and he was a lifelong member of the Christchurch Gun Club. At the end of a long and distinguished career he was awarded the BEM and the even rarer Meritorious Service Medal. Howe retired in 1978 to settle at Tuckton, Bournemouth, where he ran a gun shop and continued to participate in many shooting competitions, winning awards at long-range pistol shooting. Despite the difficulties of changing legislation on private small arms, he continued to offer sound advice and good service to his clientele. Howe was an innovator who contributed much to his profession in a career of more than 30 years. His awards for gallantry and exceptional service gave him a position of respect and affection, while his feats of endurance, expertise and enthusiasm significantly influenced the way the SBS went about its business. He was also modest and self-effacing. Nevertheless the service’s motto “By strength and guile” was sometimes rendered as “By strength and Gillie”. In 1958 Gilbert Howe married Rita Zanders, whom he met while serving in HMS Royal Prince, the Royal Navy’s Rhine Squadron based at Krefeld. She predeceased him in 2005 and he is survived by their daughter. Colour Sergeant Gilbert “Gillie” Howe, born December 22 1928, died December 11 2016

Growing up in Qatar in the 60s and 70s, we acquainted with a lot of British Military personnel Below are Derek and Sue Lester, they were our neighbours When Derek passed away, this is what was published LESTER Derek: Lieutenant Colonel Derek Lester of Wirkworth, Derbyshire on 25 January 2012. He was commissioned into The Sherwood Foresters in May 1946 and then served with the SAS from 1955 to 1957 and then with the Trucial Oman Scouts from 1962 to 1964 before moving to MI6 in 1965. He then served with the Infantry Junior Leaders Battalion from 1966 - 67 before being posted to Qatar Armed Forces and became Colonel chief of Staff in 1972 before leaving the Army in 1978.